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On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:41 PM, James Keener <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Community is people who joined it

We're not a "community." We're people using email to get help with or discuss technical aspects of PostgreSQL. The types of discussions that would normally be held within a "community" would be entirely off-topic here.  We should be professional to each other here; we don't need to be buddies. There is a clear difference between "professionalism" and "community". A document governing interactions on this list is within the right of the moderation, but leaking into the "real world" is an abomination and perversion of what this group is.

To many of us, we absolutely are a community. Remember, there are people here who have been around for 20+ years, of which many have become close friends, having started working on PostgreSQL as a hobby. We have always seen the project as a community of like-minded technologists, and welcome others that wish to join, whether just to ask a single question or to hang around for the next 20 years. I do see your viewpoint, but I would counter that coming here for help (for example) is quite different from calling tech support at a vendor.
 

My church group is 100% within their right to kick me out of teaching Sunday School if I were to have an affair. Teaching Sunday School is an act taking place as part of a community of people with a shared belief and culture. My job would 100% not be within their right to fire me for having an affair, as it's not a community, but a professional environment and my personal life is just that: personal. (Baring an ethics clauses signed when joining, I guess?)

Jim


On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Ilya Kosmodemiansky <ik@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On 14. Sep 2018, at 16:17, Dave Page <dpage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


The lists are just one of many different ways people in this community interact.

I could only heavily +1 this. I can get from where comes the idea that community is only what happens just on postgresql.org or just on some other channel community uses. Community is people who joined it and CoC supposed to apply even if people use analogue telephones. This is about communication, not about communication channels. 



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