Just as a further reassurance, I just did a cksum of the /lib/security/pam_* stuff on both machines, and then a diff on the two listings, and they were identical. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno xeno@eskimo.com Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.