On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 04:08:16PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 08/22/2017 01:39 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:59:31PM -0400, valdis.kletnieks@xxxxxx wrote: > >> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 12:48:42 -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey said: > >> > >>> An observation that may just mean I haven't stumbled upon it yet is > >>> that it would be nice to... stumble upon... a list of kernel problems > >>> that *kernelnewbies* could cut their teeth on. I do understand that > >>> this is a naive wish list item due to the nearly every nanosecond > >>> changing complexity of things. :) > >> > >> Such a thing existed 10 or 15 years ago. Unfortunately for the newbies, there > >> are very few problems that newbies can attack, because if they were that > >> simple, somebody would already have *done* them. > > > > Not really, please look at drivers/staging/*/TODO there are loads of > > simple things left to do, with more being added all the time (a huge new > > wireless driver just landed that could use lots of cleanups.) > > > >> One thing in particular that pretty much killed the kernel-janitors project > >> (which did cleanup of code) was a change in the rules for kernel API changes. > >> Before, somebody could add a new/changed API, and the janitors would change all > >> the uses in the tree. We now require that a patch series that changes an API > >> has to also fix all in-tree uses of the API. > > > > That's always been the rule, you could never break the build. What is > > better now in that people who do the new API usually fix everything up > > at the same time because they want to drop the old API sooner rather > > than later. > > > > thanks, > > > > greg k-h > > > > You need the hardware though? Nope, not at all. _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies