On 08/22/2017 01:39 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:59:31PM -0400, valdis.kletnieks@xxxxxx wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 12:48:42 -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey said: >> >>> An observation that may just mean I haven't stumbled upon it yet is >>> that it would be nice to... stumble upon... a list of kernel problems >>> that *kernelnewbies* could cut their teeth on. I do understand that >>> this is a naive wish list item due to the nearly every nanosecond >>> changing complexity of things. :) >> >> Such a thing existed 10 or 15 years ago. Unfortunately for the newbies, there >> are very few problems that newbies can attack, because if they were that >> simple, somebody would already have *done* them. > > Not really, please look at drivers/staging/*/TODO there are loads of > simple things left to do, with more being added all the time (a huge new > wireless driver just landed that could use lots of cleanups.) > >> One thing in particular that pretty much killed the kernel-janitors project >> (which did cleanup of code) was a change in the rules for kernel API changes. >> Before, somebody could add a new/changed API, and the janitors would change all >> the uses in the tree. We now require that a patch series that changes an API >> has to also fix all in-tree uses of the API. > > That's always been the rule, you could never break the build. What is > better now in that people who do the new API usually fix everything up > at the same time because they want to drop the old API sooner rather > than later. > > thanks, > > greg k-h > You need the hardware though? _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies