currently, i'm working on a short writeup showing how to use gdb to debug a running kernel and, when i first wrote this a while back, it was for a 32-bit system and things worked just fine. in short, i fired up gdb using the standard kernel-oriented invocation with: $ sudo gdb /tmp/vmlinux /proc/kcore where i copied the vmlinux file for the running kernel into /tmp to save keystrokes. and that's the standard way to use gdb to debug the kernel, but here's where it starts to get weird. on a 32-bit system, if i wanted to print the current value of jiffies, i used: (gdb) p jiffies_64 however, since this *is* a 64-bit system, i apparently have no such symbol, i would just use: (gdb) p __jiffies $12 = 4294937296 (gdb) p __jiffies $13 = 4294937296 (gdb) p __jiffies $14 = 4294937296 ... and as kernel-oriented gdb users know, you'll keep getting the same answer over and over until you flush the gdb cache and reread /proc/kcore: (gdb) core-file /proc/kcore but even after i do that, i'll get the same value. why? is there some really fundamental difference between debugging a 32-bit vs 64-bit kernel? and this is also weird: (gdb) p loops_per_jiffy $16 = 4096 huh? that value is way too low for this system. on my old 32-bit system, that value would be around 2 million or so. none of this makes sense. am i missing something fundamental? this is the first time i've tried this on a 64-bit system. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Top-notch, inexpensive online Linux/OSS/kernel courses http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe from this list: send an email with "unsubscribe kernelnewbies" to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxx Please read the FAQ at http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ