On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 13:06 +0700, Mulyadi Santosa wrote: > Dear Taha... > > > But at the end of the day, I judge my progress with the mailing > > list and I find myself struggling... > > relax, that's what we call "learning curve" :) Someone did it as fast as > Neo, other...well, as slow as "escargot" (the latter is how I > categorize myself :) ). So, unless you live inside The Matrix where > everything is injected into your brain and 5 minutes later you can do > drunken kungfu flawlessly inside the virtual dojo, you must accept that > we learn it slowly :) > > I do suggest to do all these kind in more or less equal: > > 1. read books, first start with "easy one" like Linux Kernel > Development, the go to the "hard one" like Understanding the Linux > kernel. between that, spend some times to read hardware related > documents such as Intel System Developers manual. > > Between those long hour of reading, you must be ready to accept some > concepts AS IS first, rather than go back and forth between books and > finally find yourself inside total chaos. Use pencil and paper to write > down some terms or draw a diagram. Sometimes it is best to combine > audio, visual and motoric concept when learning something > > 2. Discussion really helps. Participate in everything that interests > you. Of course, you will get confused initially, but this is normal. > read how others reply, ask yourself why they answer like that. Cross > check their answers with the fact you get from those books. If you feel > they are wrong or want to add something, jump in and participate. Like > the old proverb says "the more the merrier" :) > > 3. Do some experiment. Create a patch (even silly one), test it, browse > some codes (cscope and lxr really help here). Afraid to crash your > machine? relax, UML, Qemu, bochs, xen etc etc are ready to save your > day. gdb and ddd are your friend when you want to do debugging. > familiarize yourself with "oops" message because once during your > kernel career, you will likely face it and fix the bug. > > Through experiment, what you get from books and HOWTOs can be > "confirmed". remember that Linux kernel is a fast moving beast. Within > days, something is added or changed, so be ready to adapt. > > "Those who afraids to try, are already failed" So, don't be a coward, > show to the world that you're a real man :) (that makes the girls > forbidden to touch the kernel since they will turn into male? :))) ) > > 4. Share what you know with other. Wiki, IMHO, is the best way to go. > Blog is helpful, like gaurav did. Fortunately, Kernelnewbies has a wiki > too :) > > 5. Have some fun :) It's like riding a roller coaster. Sometimes you are > on your feet, sometimes the feet are on your head :) Jump into IRC > channel such as #kernelnewbies where we hang around and chat about our > daily life. There, you will meet people "personally". > > 6. read LWN or kerneltrap to find out what's new in the kernel world. > > 7. Ok, what is rule number 7? :)) > > regards, > > Mulyadi Dear all, thank you all ... I think i got it......... regards taha -- Kernelnewbies: Help each other learn about the Linux kernel. Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/kernelnewbies/ FAQ: http://kernelnewbies.org/faq/