Hi I have been following the mailing list for more than one month and I would like to share my point of view. I feel (may be i am wrong!!!) that there is a need for tutorials to help build the basis for the newbies so that they are competent enough to understand the mailing list.... There is lot of assumption going on(about the knowledge of the "kernel newbies") when a mail is answered. If we present the basic tutorials, a newbie like me can take a month or two to go through them and then join the list. This will also set the standard for the level of the explanation required to answer a question. I always thought there will be more "friendly" material on linux than on windows. Although for administration of linux one finds a lot of material but for a programmer one finds himself in a group of highly skilled programmers lacking an expression (sorry to be rude!!). regards taha -- Kernelnewbies: Help each other learn about the Linux kernel. Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/kernelnewbies/ FAQ: http://kernelnewbies.org/faq/