On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Monday 2012-12-17 15:30, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: > > >On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 02:01:07PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >[...] > >> >So far, I haven't see any *strong reason* to drop nftables code > >> > >> In all fairness, I have never said anything about dropping nft. > >> I am focused on xt2, its inclusion and subsequent maintenance, because > >> it resolves the ipt shortcomings in a way that I think appeals most to > >> the userspace crowd. > > > >I'm still not convinced but I want find a short-term compromise > >solution for this which does not involve tons of email. We'll announce > >the netfilter workshop soon, likely to happen at Q1 2013 depending on > >availability of the organizer, but maybe Q2 2013 (but not later), I > >think it's the place to debate your proposal and nftables, of course. > > > >I will not get anything into mainline until then. > > Delaying this for more months is not a good idea, I think. > > The amount of patches will grow as more features are implemented. If > there is an objection to a patch, then this can have implications for > all those that follow (not rebase conflicts, but actual > invalidating), which gets more painful the larger the patchset is. A few months won't really hurt - TPROXY had been discussed for a couple of years at every workshop (and it was much simpler, smaller code). Both nftables and xtables2 have got nice features, so it's not a simple question. Best regards, Jozsef - E-mail : kadlec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kadlecsik.jozsef@xxxxxxxxxxxxx PGP key : http://www.kfki.hu/~kadlec/pgp_public_key.txt Address : Wigner Research Centre for Physics, Hungarian Academy of Sciences H-1525 Budapest 114, POB. 49, Hungary -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html