I decided to upgrade to iptables -1.3.5 and i got the latest patch-o-matic to notice that a majority of the patches are gone? The one i was looking for was the geoip patch, but besides that whats happened to all the other patches there were in there? I see the last patch-o-matic to contain all the patches was patch-o-matic-ng-20060511.tar.bz2 regards, Dave