The iptable logs are not complete and as I mentioned, I may need help with setting that up. I can see the packets coming from the server with tcpdump as I showed in my original post but then an immediate reply is sent back and nothing goes through to the internal interface. The same thing happens when I use nmap to scan ip protocols. Conversely, my internal ESP traffic ends at the internal interface of my firewall. It never reaches the external interface or the outside. TCP traffic works fine as you can see from the ping logs from the internal client. Could this indicate that there is a problem before anything gets to iptables? h. On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 12:25 -0500, netfilter-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: JO> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:13:59AM -0800, Helge Weissig wrote: JO> > Jason, JO> > JO> > my ESP packets do not go from the external interface to the internal JO> > one and vice versa. The connection to the VPN server works when I hook JO> > up directly with no changes other than the IP of the client. I cannot JO> > see how this would be a problem with the VPN network at all. JO> > JO> > h. JO> JO> looking at your logs--all your ESP packets are from client->server. JO> you don't have a single ESP packet from server->client. so when you JO> say, "my ESP packets do not go from the external interface..." you are JO> ignoring the fact that there are no ESP packets ever getting to your JO> external interface. JO> JO> which brings me back to what i said several replies ago: JO> JO> your VPN server is discarding the ESP packets from your client as a JO> result of the mangling of your intermediate NAT device. JO> JO> either make the VPN server more tolerant, or use NAT-T on your client. JO> JO> -j JO> JO> -- JO> "Ah, good ol' trustworthy beer. My love for you will never die." JO> --The Simpsons JO>