On Thursday 08 April 2004 09:54, Frank Gruellich wrote: > * Antony Stone <Antony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 8. Apr 04: > > On Thursday 08 April 2004 1:32 pm, Jeffrey Laramie wrote: > > > [thanks to Antony] > > > > Hey, thanks, it's nice to remember that there's a lot more people on this > > list than just those who post (questions or answers). > > I totally agree to Jeffrey. And I really admire your patience. > Unfortunatelly I don't have it. > > > Good - in that case I'm doing a useful job :) If I were posting replies > > which people thought "yes, I knew that - why didn't the questioner just > > look it up in a tutorial somewhere", > > This list has (IMHO) three 'problems' (this is one of it): > > 1. There are a lot of 'bad' questition/postings, like "This is my script > (200+ lines), it doesn't work, what's wrong?" I would never answer > something like this. Many problems are very bad described. (I had some > mails offlist with somebody from this list. But after about three mails > to and from I still had no idea about the problem. So I gave up.) > > 2. Additionally most of the questions could be answered with 'RTFM', a > -j LOG at a proper place, a 'watch -d iptables -t $table -nvxL $chain' > and/or a tcpdump. (Maybe I should write a mini-howto-debug-iptables?) Awhile back I wrote down some mailing list guidelines which might be useful to newbies or others who are not mailing list 'regulars'. I normally wouldn't re-post something like this, but in the context of this thread I think helping people write effective postings is the best way to do something nice for Antony and the others who post here regularly. http://www.ubaight.com/JeffsRules.html Feel free to reuse, copy, edit, link to 'Jeffs Rules' as you see fit. I welcome any suggestions for addtions or changes; please send them to me directly off list. Again, thanks to Antony and all the others who spend their time helping others. Jeff
