I'll attempt to clear things up a bit. An irc proxy, is a machine that accepts a connection, then forwards you on to the proxy server. An irc bounce, is very similiar in nature. The general idea behind an irc proxy/bnc is that you have a way to anonymize yourself. You have a way of allowing many people to connect to irc, from one address. (most irc servers don't allow more than 2 connections from the same IP. With a proxy and, what's called an i:line, they can allow proxied hosts if they're secure). What I'm looking for, is not an irc proxy. I'm already connecting to an irc proxy. The problem is, when I changed my default gateway to point at my http-proxy, I can no longer make connections out to my irc server. (It comes back with a "connection refused"). I thought I would have to use NAT in this case, just like I have to use NAT to allow http and ftp requests, through the squid proxy server. Here's how I'm set up: Client machine -> squid-proxy -> DMZ -> IRC Server. When the client machine sends a connection request to the irc server, it comes back with a "Connection Refused". I thought I could use some NAT/Netfiltering rules, to fix this issue. Does any of this make sense, yet? :-/ Regards, Tim Rainier