Going to try to fit all my comments for this thread into one email and hope everyone reads. Here we go. First off I would like to say a big thanks to Ralf and Ramin. They gave really good explanations that I needed to see why this hasn't been addressed. While I still would like to see this kind of functionality in iptables I can see why it is not. To those stressing that it would be too much on the CPU and memory I have to wonder how valid this is. I know it would certainly increase the load but I do not believe it would overload most systems. Ralf made some really good points. He says I should use a proxy. Ok so how do I go about proxying my two web sites that are hosted with apache? Honestly I'm not being sacrastic I really don't know. Going along with what Ramin says is the third level of a fully implemented firewall(the application level) am I to assume then that it is then to fall to a proxy(I again don't know what sort of proxy I need here...not sure squid is what I need) or I would really like to ask should it fall to apache(if so anyone know of how to define what apache logs?) A question to Ralf about the second lawyer of a firewall. Is a circut relay also known as a bridge? Also a question to Ramin. You make note in that last post of basically dealing with the HTTP protocol on the HTTP application level.... are you referreing to web server(apache) ? Thanks to all who are helping out. I see a soloution coming about. With a little more help I and some others I know may get there. Thanks SBlaze ===== "Winky is not knowing how sir, winky is not knowing how?" -=Winky / Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire=-" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com