Hi, On 18 February 2010 00:01, Craig Woodward <woody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: [...] I hope that what you're saying and implying is not the attitude of the general Maemo developer, because it would mean that I've really chosen the wrong platform. What I have to think about is the fact that the maemo.orgs extra-devel repository is obviously "a random piece of crap", something I didn't now. You see, I perfectly well knew that the N900 is targeted towards tech savvy users, and that Maemo 6 is probably the first version being something for the average user. I knew that the amount of apps available isn't that high, and that many of them aren't even fully and properly "hildonized". That didn't keep me from buying the phone. You know why? Because it was clear to me that I wanted to be part of the maemo community. I'm not a developer, I don't know how to program in C++, and honestly, I don't want to learn this language, and neither do I want to learn python. You know what I did? I joined the maemo.org mailing lists the day I received my N900, since then I'm lurking around here, reading the discussions. I installed scratchbox on my laptop, and in fact ditched my lovely BSD install and settled on ArchLinux because of this. The N900 is my only phone, mainly because I can't afford buying a second one for everyday use, and I just don't like carrying around two handsets anyway. My plan was to install the Apps I needed, to give them a try, lend a helping hand to squash out bugs. That being said, I even accepted that the apps I installed contained bugs, something I'm fine with as long as there's some constant development. But reality is that I have a life full of responsibilities: I have a work life (like most of you I think), and I have (and want) to care for my family. Doing something with my phone is my 3rd priority at max (which is why I have neither posted on this list nor filed a bug report before), and sometimes I just want to use my phone. So, you see, in my eyes installing a package is trivial, and nobody should have to check how much memory a package consumes. I am perfectly capable of this situation, to be precise, I did so with PR1.1. I moved parts of /var/apt, /usr/share and even most locales to /home/user. But this is a time consuming process, time I would've liked to spend on other things. The same applies to removing apps before running an update. It's simply unnecessary. I mean, what you're telling the users is this: "Hey $user, we packaged a few cool apps that are even shown on youtube, and we would like you to use them. Give them a try, and if there's something wrong, file a bug report. Oh, well, but in case of an update, you're screwed. We expect you to handle this." This really sounds sensible... At the end of last year there was a hacker meeting taking place in germany. I showed my N900 to some of the people attending, some admired it, but others asked me why I use a phone "with a compiler". You see, there are even Nerds out there who do not want to tinker around with their devices. And most of them are very capable, providing code for Open Source projects, for example. They are capable - but they do not want to handle such a situation. And my eyes, they shouldn't have to. Because even the N900 is a tool, and as such, some stuff should "just work". Regards Christian Walther _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
