Re: Where is telnet?

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On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:10 AM, James Knott <james.knott@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM, James Knott <james.knott@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> FWIW, I've often used ssh on my N800 to remotely access my home
>>> network.  It works fine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ...a server & device over which *you* have total control and which
>> *has* SSH available. Such is *not* always the case...
>>
>>
>
> FWIW, I work extensively with networking and telecommunications
> equipment.  As I mentioned in anther note, only one company's products
> won't do ssh.  Linux supports ssh out of the box and you have to do a
> bit of work to enable telnet access to a Linux system.  I don't think
> you can telnet to a Windows box, without adding software.  The last OS I
> worked with that easily supported telnet access was OS/2.  Anyone who'd
> use telnet over the internet is asking for trouble as it's very easy to
> read the user ID & password.  A few years ago, I demonstrated to my
> manager how easy it was to do so.  Telnet should only be used when ssh
> is not available.  Also, I'd question the security of any system where
> it wasn't available.  Are you likely to have problems on a home
> network?  No.  But it should never be used anywhere else.
>
>

Again, you're talking from a server-side viewpoint, where you have
control over what's available. Also, you're too paranoid. Sometimes
security is irrelevant, such as with throw-away logins for stuff that
has zero personal information and you'll never use again and
situations where the complete user area (or even the entire computer)
is a sandbox and completely overwritten for a totally fresh start
every day. As I said before, your personal experience is *not* the
be-all and end-all.

Also, sometimes SSH fails under its own weight. I'm having a problem
where I can't access one server because the second the login is
accepted it starts spewing garbage and crashes Putty. Obviously
something is going wrong with the decryption. The exact same app and
server work fine on my other machines, so I'm stumped.

Mark
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