On 6 Mar 2009, at 18:16, Julius Szelagiewicz <julius@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ognen,> I'm sorry that you took offence at my joke. This really was a> joke, but obviously poorly worded.>> I find it mildly amusing that people complain about N810> functionality and the need to add application at the same breath > praising> Iphones and saying how they were able to download applications to make> their very, very expensive device functional. The real price of an > Iphone> is the monthly rental charge disguised in the phone bill. Well no. I pay the same for my monthly bill as people I know do for their regular phone tarrif. I get unlimited data too. As in, I use cellular data free every single day. I easily use £35 worth of data, SMS and calls every month, but I get no additional charges. The iPhone just *works*. Politics aside, the basic out of box functionality runs rings round my N800. For what *I* use it for. Ymmv, obviously. >>> My experience with all thing "screen" on N8x0 is mixed - the> applications perform well enough, my eyes don't.>> Since I didn't see any ads for N8x0 devices, I don't feel cheated,> on the contrary, I think that a N810 for $220 is a tremendous value.>> So please don't take offence at feeble jokes. Without going into> my degrees and decades of programming, I happily admit to being an > idiot> about most, if not all, things in life. It took me very long to lose > my> delusions of adequacy, just shows that I'm slow.>> julius>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Ognen Duzlevski wrote:>>> Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:>>> The biggest beef seems to be that the Nokia tablets are not aimed>>> at the idiots. As a business decision, it may be misguided, since >>> idiots>>> constitute a vast majority of the buying public. Personally I like >>> to be>>> treated as an adult.>>>>>>> Julius,>>>> My intended application for the N800 is controlling Lego Mindstorms >> NXT>> bricks. For that purpose the N800 is actually a very cool device >> (runs>> Linux, has bluetooth and USB, can run python etc.). I have another >> N800>> that I bought as a portable "lazy-man's" gadget - that portion has >> not>> played out so well. The idea was to take it on trips for movies,>> browsing the web and use it as a GPS. None of these have worked out >> well>> (for me, YMMV). I have since bought an Eee and that puppy is miles >> ahead>> of the N8x0 for my intended uses, mind you, it costs approximately >> the>> same and runs Linux or you can put Ubuntu on it yourself, which is >> what>> I did.>>>> My main beef with N800 is the difference between advertised>> functionality and what you actually get. Maemo community is great BUT>> there seems to be an enormous amount of confusion out there on what >> the>> device can actually do and how to get it done between the various>> versions of maemo. I am used to hacking stuff all day but maybe>> sometimes, just sometimes, I don't want to serve the gadget and I >> want>> the gadget to serve me.>>>> I kind of resent the wording in your email - that the beef with the>> device is that it is not meant for idiots. I have a CS degree, have >> even>> published a paper or two, co-wrote a chapter in a scientific textbook>> and have been a programmer for most of my life (on Linux). I don't>> consider myself to be an idiot by any means.>>>> Thanks,>> Ognen>>>>> _______________________________________________> maemo-users mailing list> maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users_______________________________________________maemo-users mailing listmaemo-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users