On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Theodore Tso <tytso@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 01:01:51PM -0600, Mark wrote: >> Nokia has the resources to develop its own chips, which it could >> easily keep open. That would solve the problems for everybody (meaning >> consumers, developers and Nokia). > > Many companies can *afford* to build and design new chips from > scratch, yes --- but unfortunately companies are not charities. The > question is can you create a credible business plan where a single > company (and I don't care whether it is Nokia, Lenovoa, Dell, or > anyone else) or maybe a consortium of companies, produces a new > multi-function wireless chip that does 3G, Wifi, and everything else, > and at the very least breaks even compared with the cost of buying > that same component from Broadcom, or whatever supplier they might > happen to have. Making more open design hardware is exactly the problem Nokia needs to solve instead of solving GPL. > Remember, the mobile business is a highly competitive one, and if it > costs an extra $20 per handset, that company will be hugely > disadvantaged when they try to get carriers to pick up their phones > (at least in the US market, where 99% of cell phones are sold through > carriers). > > And if you think someone is going to put down a huge capital > investment just to create an open chipset for the relatively small > internet tablet market, and do it in a way that won't lose vast > amounts of money, you're *really* smoking something pretty good. You really give me some reason to strong my belief that Nokia has no guts to say Linux can be a better preposition ever than Sybian is. >> But they're not doing it out of fear >> of backlash from the closed community. Heaven help the company that >> sticks its neck out and breaks the industry wide open for *real* >> innovation... > > I don't think it has anything to do with that at all. It's about a > creating valid business plan where it at least breaks even, especially > since the number of people that would actually pay extra for open > device drivers is very small. I happen to be one of them, but I > *know* that I am in the minority. Open drivers for an open design will probably even cost nothing to Nokia , I really hope so. > It's just like in the airline business, where people will kvetch about > comfort, and lack of hot food in economy class, but where time and > time again, it has been proven that when it comes down to deciding > whether to fly with airline X or airline Y, the vast majority of > customers overwhelmingly go with whatever is cheapest. > > If you think you're so smart, and can figure a way to make money while > "breaking the industry wide open", I can certainly introduce you to a > few VC's (and VC's are really good at shredding six business plans > before breakfast --- well, at least during multiple breakfast meetings. :-) Let there be a non Nokia dependent Maemo community, who needs VCs ? Let there be fair models of business and true service values; Serve well or get slapped, works best for real FOSS companies & customers. ~kevin _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
