Mark wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Theodore Tso <tytso@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> Do you really think it is OBVIOUS that it is >> always cheaper to make your own and never to buy from another >> company's product? >> > > Because it *is* obvious. The fundamental assumption is that the given > company has the size and resources to manufacture chips. Give that > capability, yes, it is *always* cheaper for them to manufacture their > own. > Wow; this demonstrates ignorance of a depth I had not believed existed in the universe. I'm impressed. Let's go through the reasons why it's terribly expensive to manufacture custom-designed chips in relatively small quantities: You can't keep the people and support infrastructure working at capacity, which raises the cost for what you get. You probably need about the same number of really *top* (expensive) people to make things work as somebody doing 10 times as much designing and fabricating (at least, there's a minimum number; a big chip designer may need *more* than the minimum, but even your small company just designing a few needs that minimum). It takes time to set up a fab for a particular chip; that's down-time when it's non-productive. So short runs have added costs. If you don't need enough chips built to keep your fab working full-time, that's even more expensive (you paid the same price for it as the guy who *does* work his full-time). There won't be the support tools to support design and debug with your custom chips (unless you build them yourself). The design and setup costs have to be amortized across however many chips you build; the fewer chips you build, the more each has to contribute towards those costs. I'm sure I'm missing some things; while I've worked around semi-custom VLSI design (I wrote behavioral modeling code and developed test patterns), I've never worked near a fab or around full-blown custom chip design. But generally, most of this comes under "economies of scale", a very well-known concept in economics. You should look into it. -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b@xxxxxxxx; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
