On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 05:38:40PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > ext Marius Gedminas wrote: > > That's what I do: reformat the card with the File Manager on the N810, > > create a new swap file, then don't touch the card. Later I will notice > > that after a reboot my card is showing complete garbage: > > http://mg.pov.lt/n810-fs-corruption.png > > > > This has happened three or four times since I got my N810. > > > > Initially I also had the problem with the FAT partition being a bit > > larger than the device, but reformatting it with the file manager also > > recreates the partition table, and it does that correctly. > > > > Then I used the internal card to keep my valuable data. Once I started > > getting filesystem errors, rebooted and discovered that the partition > > table was overwritten by the contents of a text file. Since then I no > > longer keep valuable data on the card. > > Some reasons why FAT may corrupt: > - User disconnects the USB cable without "safely unmount" > (similarly to re-inserting the memory card card, re-connecting > the cable doesn't help, device and desktop OSes forget the changes > once you disconnect the storage) (1) I almost never use USB for transferring data. (2) When I do, I always eject the card. (3) You can't access the internal card over USB when you've got an active swap partition. > - Device HW watchdog (not the SW one) rebooting the device This may have happened, but how exactly can a HW watchdog reboot scribble random data all over the partition table and/or root directory? I'd understand if the FAT weren't completely updated and I'd get cross-linked files or missing free space, but complete garbate in the root dir? > Are you sure neither of these have happened? Watchdog resets have happened occasionally. And I usually notice FS corruption after one of those. Still, that doesn't explain the other experiments I did earlier. I created a 1.7 GB partition (to be really really sure I'm not accidentally trying to make the filesystem larger than the device), formatted it as VFAT and created a single large empty file (dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/mmc2/bigfile), and that caused vfat errors in dmesg and, at least once, caused the *partition table* to get overwritten with zeroes. See this (short) thread: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2008-March/020492.html > If you're sure, is an external card more reliable? Yes. I haven't ever seen FS corruption on the external card, and I hadn't seen FS corruption on either of the two cards in my old N800. (Although one SD card died *completely* while in the external slot of the N800. So completely that it spews USB errors and is invisible in any SD reader I've tried.) Marius Gedminas -- Jim's Three Laws of Engineering: 1. F = ma 2. You can't solve a problem unless you know the answer 3. You can't push a rope
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