Hi, ext Jason Edgecombe wrote: > To all of those who have complained about the tablets in this thread and > elsewhere, I direct you to a recent post on the maemo developers list: > http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2008-May/017624.html There is only one reason why I posted that email in the developers list and not here: focus on the things we can change easier. Look at this list: 1. maemo.org features 2. developer relevant stuff 3. open source platform components 4. Nokia closed source platform components 5. Nokia developed applications 6. 3rd party apps officially supported 7. Drivers depending on 3rd party hardware 8. Hardware choices and design It's quite improvised so don't look at it like carved on stone. 1 is where the community has more chances to decide on things. In fact, specially after funding time from community people like Niels (web apps), Dave (web content) and Andre/Karsten (to be announced soon as bugmasters) the initiative and possibility of improving relies more and more on your side. maemo.org is for you and if you are happy with feature X or change Y Nokia is probably happy too. The website is for the community and the community knows what they need and want. 8 is where the community has little to no chances for any direct change. Not even the average Nokia software developer and ******* manager like myself has much to say. It's just a different game. Of course suggestions and complaints are appreciated and followed but, really, the average commenter has little knowledge on the process and the factors that involve hardware design and manufacturing. Besides, changes happen in very different time frames and all the information is really sensitive in multiple ways. It's good to keep providing feedback and we are happing organizing the right placeholder in maemo.org to be followed by the right people at Nokia (they do listen customers, and a lot). But don't expect them to come here and discuss. 2-7 are the intermediate levels of possibility to discuss openly and make common decision in real time. The third party stuff depends mostly on, well, the third parties. They are also interested on feedback but each case differs. They use to have their own feedback channels so it is also up to you to use which one or both. Many (most?) debates in maemo-users and Internet Tablet Talk go around 5-8, while in maemo-developers the hottest potatoes tend to fit in 1-4. Understand this list and why it is like this, and your input and chances to get your feedback implemented in future official releases will increase. Please give a go to this list, suggest what is missing and criticize what you don't like. Once it's stable we can put it somewhere visible so people willing to provide feedback in maemo.org, ITT and elsewhere are aware of this basic (and hopefully understandable) rule of the game. Thank you! -- Quim Gil marketing manager, open source maemo software @ Nokia _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users