Tuomas Kulve wrote: > hendrik at topoi.pooq.com wrote: > > >> That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would >> mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not >> necessary is itself a security problem. >> > > Ping seems to be setuid root on my debian. So it's run as root here too. > > Other than my N800, I have never experienced having to be root to ping. It is a useful user level diagnostic. Imaging someone providing user support in a large corporation, as I have done. A user cannot connect to something. You talk them through various tests they can do, to help isolate a problem. One of the tools to use is ping. Another is traceroute. I pity the support person, who doesn't have those available. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org>