On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 07:23:15PM -0500, James Knott wrote: > Peter Flynn wrote: > > Marius Gedminas wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: > >> > >>>> If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08. There's > >>>> enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more > >>>> exploring all that's available, and by then, even more stuff will be > >>>> available. > >>>> > >>> A lot of useful command line tools have gone to the mist. > >>> Hope the same will not get perl, python, ruby... > >>> > >> So, what command-line tools do you miss? I've got an idle scratchbox > >> here. > >> > > > > ping and traceroute would be useful. > > > > > > Ping is there, but you have to be root to use it. That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not necessary is itself a security problem. -- hendrik
