OK, First, Yes I understand 2008 is a beta. So please don't anyone get defensive. But I think I have a case somehow of application vs 2008 and I'm trying to track it down. Can't file a bug until I can say "do this and that happens" or at least say what is happening. I'm about to do a 3rd re-install this weekend. Each one is promted by the same thing. After a restart (last on promted by a need to change battery for a charged one while out) I loose all visible widgets. No buttons (I've the text) no progress or scroll bars, nothing. Now the functionality is still there. If I guess the location of a scroll button it will scroll, Buttons though only defined by the text that was on them still push. I seem to recall someone having this kind of event in the past and a cure existing. Though for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Any suggestions would be appreciated as this is #3 event in 3 days. Though the "remember what was installed" feature of 2008 is working well. James