Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieben Sie: >> ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: >>> Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: >>>> OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and >>>> other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also >>>> this won't utilize the DSP). >>> I don't agree with ogg = nerd feature. Linux as an open and free platform >>> is way beyond nerd-state. Ogg is also about openness and freedom. They >>> share the same philosophy. >>> >>> The OS of our internet tablets is based upon Linux, isn't it? So why is >>> there no support for ogg? >>> >>> By the way: every time a new stylish personal media player from china is >>> shown on engadget you will find more and more players with support for >>> flac and ogg vorbis. Hmm, something is changing? >> I think whether Nokia is going to support ogg or not is somewhat >> besides the point. What should be supported is: >> - Addition of support for new codecs to the system >> (works, but the repository situation could be better) >> - All applications immediately able to use the new codecs >> - User opening a file (in browser or filemanager) encoded with the new >> codec should automatically open it in the correct player >> - Documenting how to achieve this >> >> This way Nokia doesn't need to be a bottleneck in getting new codecs >> for the users; community, commercial companies etc could then do it. > > I agree with you. The "missing ogg support" can also be seen as a synonym for > missing codex in general, missing specs, information and commitment. Can we > interpret your post that things will change? And when? Sorry, this is not really my area and I don't know the situation in Chinook. Quim? I think everything should work at the gstreamer level, but at least earlier the higher levels hard-coded some things because: - Maemo has actually two multimedia frameworks below osso-media-server, Helix and Gstreamer working over Gnomevfs - Whether something could be played depends from whether they are available as a local file or a remote stream, not just the used codec So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these things are documented in upstream projects. There should still be a tutorial how to do these things though. If there are still some problems after codec has been correctly registered to gstreamer and mime-type database: - gstreamer not recognizing the file type correctly - mediaplayer not playing the file - file manager or browser not launching the media player properly Please file bugs. > Will the community soon have the necessary information, sdk, tools etc. to > fully take advantage of the capabilities of the internet tablet hardware > (especially the dsp)? DSP is another, unrelated issue to the above one. Quim? > What you wrote sounds promissing! There are highly skilled and talented people > around here - I think they are just waiting for the facts to release the > potential of the internet tablets! Give them what they need! - Eero
