On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:45:59 Fred C wrote: > I don't consider my n800 a toy. I've been in and out of computers and > prrogramming since 1968. The N800 is a new device of extremely > limited power, but very nice utility, if used within reasonable > limits. > > Those expecting more need a reality check if they expect to push the > envelope of a small handheld device without putting in a > significant amount of effort AND time negotiating the back and > forth world of fringe. > > Been there, done that over twenty years ago, and still doing it, only I > carefully pick my battles. The N800 ain't one of those battles -- for > me. I use it to be able to reply to this email while hanging out in my > kitchen while my dinner is nuked, amongst it's other uses. > > > > On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:04:42 -0400 > > Gary Baribault <gary at baribault.net> wrote: > > Yep, that's exactly what I mean, some people have put down 430$ (in > > Canada) for a nice toy, and they can flash and restore in 20 minutes, > > but most people (I think, and I may be wrong) have put down 430$ for a > > fully customised device .. I'm not looking to be skewing information, > > if i'm wrong, then I'm wrong, no prob, then Nokia is right! > > > > > > Gary Baribault > > Courriel: gary at baribault.net > > GPG Key: 0x4346F013 > > GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 > > > > drfredc at drfredc.com wrote: > > >> I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in > > >> 20 minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take > > >> over 90 minutes. > > > > > > If you limit your curiosity to those over 90 minutes, you'll > > > purposefully skew the results, which really isn't appropriate. > > > > > > I'm a 20 minute flash and restore kind of guy, back in August > > > when I got the unit back from warranty service due to it's brick > > > like behavior. Most of that time was spent watching TV while the > > > unit and laptop did their work. > > > > > > However, it's possible that it's easy and short for me because > > > I've kept things relatively simple on my N800 with a couple games, > > > Gizmo Project, Quiver photo viewer and Claws mail being just about > > > the only additions. I've configured about 20 RSS feeds and 4 > > > weather stations. I've tested a fair amount of other stuff from > > > Maemo, but then when I find it of limited value or unfunctional, I > > > remove it to keep the clutter down. It seems to speed boot up > > > keeping things simple. I gather it may also help the restore > > > process... > > > > > > I guess the fine print is I've only recently started messing > > > around getting Claws Mail up to full speed with filters and stuff, > > > so it might be possible that I might have to spend some time > > > fussing with restoring some Claws settings there from a restore, > > > but then again, perhaps not. The only thing I "question" (and I use that term loosly) is calling it underpowered. I tend to view it as if I am saying. "What could I do on a desktop in 1999?" This little handheld is as powerful as my 300Mhz K-6 was with more storage room (I only had a 6G drive on that box.) as such no. I don't expect 3D graphics or high end gaming. But if I could do it on that box back then, I can surely do it here and now. Baring of course instruction set differences. When looked at in that light. It's really awsome how much power is in my hand. James