On Tuesday 02 October 2007 14:43:34 Gary Baribault wrote: > I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 > minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 > minutes. I'm near there and have only had the toy for about 20 days. By > the time I'm finished customizing the application load, configurations, > ssh keys, and assorted other things, I will be well over that 90 > minutes, and I'm sure many other owners are even more customized! > > Anyone care to host a survey of all applications that we load and how > much time it takes to reflash/customize/restore? (Not to mention re-test > the restore!) > > > Gary Baribault > Courriel: gary at baribault.net > GPG Key: 0x4346F013 > GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 > > Jac Kersing wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > >> Reality is that they are much closer to the resource constrains of a > >> cell phone and I don't know of a single cell phone that doesn't just > >> wipe everything that isn't on the SIM or external memory card on a > >> firmware update ... > > > > Sorry, not true. All (recent) S60 devices are firmware upgradable, backup > > before, flash new firmware, restore and all applications are available. > > (Somehow they forget to save/restore the bluetooth pairing information, > > but everything works just fine) > > > >> All that being said, I am not sure how many apps you have but reloading > >> my IT after a firmware update has never taken me 2-4 hours. > > > > Having to reinstall is a pain. Enabling blue pill mode for some packages. > > Resetting the root password after install of sshd. It is not cool to have > > to do every OS upgrade. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jac Actually I've found that doing it the Linux way for the rebuild helps .... however it still takes more than 6 hours of my time to get it all back together. A tone of small tweaks etc. Where some of the problem lies is that Nokia is a phone company, hardware wise. I think a lot of things (like users wanting to keep the older version more than a year). Really caught them off guard. Again though if this is a kernel level patch couldn't this be rolled into a kernel flash? Also if it is a kernel patch. Is the source up yet (need to get mppe in) James
