Hi Daniel, I'm a (fanatic) user of gentoo, currenly on a 1.4 with the latest 2.4.20 mjc kernel. I've added the kernel and userspace modules associated with lm_sensors. I've got an IBM P4 1.6G Netvista. When launching "sensors-detect", i had this answer : "System vendor: IBM Sorry, we won't let you go on. IBM systems are known to have serious problems with lm_sensors, resulting in hardware failures." So I went on the lm_sensors page (http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/docs.html) and found out why this (good) protection was done : there can be system failure due to a specific eeprom that can be found on thinkpad IBM and which make your system unbootable: http://www2.lm-sensors.nu/~lm78/cvs/lm_sensors2/README.thinkpad The makers of lm_sensors so put this security, to avoid people with IBM thinkpad to break down there system (good thing !). I found this article where you speak about lm_sensors and I wonder so, if you achieved this on an IBM computer. http://www-900.ibm.com/developerWorks/cn/linux/hardware/stability/index_eng.shtml Also, because I know that IBM is pretty involved in the gentoo distribution, I wonder if you can be of any help for people at lm_sensors to : - help them identify more precisely what computer is suitable for lm_sensors (maybe there's no problem with mine, by example) - eventually help them build a fix that make it work also on Thinkpad like computers. I don't know what are your relations with IBM, but maybe you can put them in touch with the needed people at IBM. Below is the e-mail i've sent to the lm_sensors support. If i can be of any help, just let me know. Regards, Guillaume. -----Message d'origine----- De : Guillaume APOSTOLY [mailto:guillaume at apostoly.com] Envoy? : jeudi 21 novembre 2002 15:16 ? : sensors at stimpy.netroedge.com Objet : lm_sensor on a Netvista Hi, I'm on a gentoo 1.4, with gcc 3.2 and a 2.4.20 kernel. I've added the I2C/lm_sensor kernel module and installed lm_sensor and ... had the surprise, that "I've got an IBM and we don't go any further". I've read the documentation, and understand why !! Still, i've got a NetVista A20 (basically a tower, P4 system). So i've got several questions : 1/ are your sure that lm_sensors only mess up with 24RF08 eprom system ? 2/ if so, can I check if my computer as got this eprom, with a "cat /proc/something" or else, and so take an older version with doesn't do the machine check and install lm_sensors ? 3/ I read in the documentation that : "IBM Thinkpads contain a proprietary Embedded Controller which is used to access sensors. This controller is not on the SMBus, and IBM will not release the programming interface to the controller. So lm_sensors isn't useful on Thinkpads anyway." What is that device, and is there a way to use it under linux ? 4/ is IBM aware of the problem, and do they want to make something for that ? I know that IBM is pretty involved in the Gentoo distribution, so maybe that way, contacting the package maintener for gentoo lm_sensor we could achieve something 5/ is their a SAFE way, to safe that eprom information and make tries with lm_sensors ? I mean, if I try lm_sensor, and that break my machine because of this eprom, what way have I got to fix it, and get a working system back ??? I'm ready to do testings, if you want, and if you've got ways to fix my machine if broken ! (if just the system is messed up, I don't care, it's a home, development and test machine). Thanks by advance, i'm particularly keen of an answer to the 2/ question. Regards, Guillaume. --------------------------------------------------- Guillaume APOSTOLY Ing?nieur d'affaires tel : +33 1 45 38 00 60 gsm : 06 84 50 81 08 CVF www.cvf.fr Tour Maine Montparnasse BP 8 - 33, avenue du Maine 75755 Paris Cedex 15 Fax : +33 1 45 38 00 01 --------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: APOSTOLY Guillaume.3090DEFANGED-vcf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 144 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.lm-sensors.org/pipermail/lm-sensors/attachments/20021121/9a179ac4/attachment.obj