Juuso, > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:27 AM > > On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 07:21 +0200, ext Gabay, Benzy wrote: > > Juuso, > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:59 PM > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 17:42 +0200, ext Gabay, Benzy wrote: > > > > Juuso, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Juuso Oikarinen <juuso.oikarinen@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently then dwell times for each channel in scans is set > to > > > an > > > > > > > overly > > > > > > > long value, and excessive number of probe-requests are > > > transmitted > > > > > on > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > channel (for active scans.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on testing, comparable results can be received with > > > smaller > > > > > > > dwell-time, > > > > > > > and, with fever probe-requests - in fact, reducing the > number > > > of > > > > > probe- > > > > > > > requests > > > > > > > to 2 seems to increase the number of found results. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that this does not making any sense. Less prob > requests > > > > > should give you back less results. As less beacons/prob > responses > > > are > > > > > getting back to the station. > > > > > > I think also that office with 70 AP is not a normal > environment > > > to > > > > > test and optimize numbers. > > > > > > I would suggest to re-test in a 1-6 AP environment which is > > > making > > > > > more sense for both home and enterprise environment. > > > > > > > > > > We have actually performed more testing than just mentioned > here, > > > in > > > > > varied environments, and all of the testing seems to indicate > that > > > > > reducing the number of probe-reqs per channel is not reducing > the > > > > > number > > > > > of acquired results. Instead, in some scenarios, it is > increasing > > > the > > > > > number of acquired results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I donât know if that is conventional request: can you share > the > > > full results and setup details? > > > > > > No, I don't have any formal documentation to share. > > > > > > The setup details are simple enough though. The tested this on > command > > > line using a simple script that flushes existing scan results, then > > > performs two or three scans counting the number of scan results on > the > > > last round using grep and wc. > > > > > > We performed the testing in office environment and a shielded > chamber, > > > which only has selected AP's within it. > > > > > > Between test rounds we modified the driver parameters related to > > > scanning, i.e. we modified the number of probe-reqs and the dwell > time > > > on each channel. > > > > > > -Juuso > > > > > > Sounds great. Just one more: which AP brands (excluding Cisco) ? > > In the office environment we have a variety of brands, including D- > link, > Buffalo, Telewell, TP-link and linksys, cisco etc. > > In the shielded chamber we are using linksys wrt610n AP's. > > -Juuso > Perfect. If still needed, I ACK this change. Benzy Gabay > > > > > > > > > > > > We did not see reduction in the probability of finding a > specific > > > AP in > > > > > a few (one or two) AP environment either. > > > > > > > > > > The effect seems to be this way because reducing the number of > > > > > probe-req's dramatically reduces the noise generated by probe- > > > responses > > > > > from AP's on neighbouring channels. > > > > > > > > > > -Juuso > > > > > > > > > > > > > ï{.nï+ïïïïïïï+%ïïlzwmïïbïëïïrïïzXïï"ïï^ïÈïïïÜ}ïïïÆzï&j:+vïïï ïïïïzZ > +ïï+zfïïïhïïï~ïïïïiïïïzïïwïïï?ïïïï&ï)ßf > ÿô.nÇ·®+%˱é¥wÿº{.nÇ·¥{±ÿ«zW¬³ø¡Ü}©²ÆzÚj:+v¨þø®w¥þàÞ¨è&¢)ß«a¶Úÿûz¹ÞúÝjÿwèf