On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Jon Fairbairn <jon.fairbairn@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > "Christoph .J Thompson" <cjsthompson@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:47:04 +0100 >> Jon Fairbairn <jon.fairbairn@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> the talk Butler Lampson gave for Roger >>> Needham's 50+5 presentation >>> <http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/cambridge/events/needhambook/videos/1032/head.wmv> >> >> Haven't used Windows seriously in over a decade, > > I never have, except to look at web pages to check that > they're compatible with the bugs in internet exploiter. > >> but as far as WiFi drivers I think there is no standards. > > That -- more's the pity -- is partly the point of Lampson's > talk. Rather than have standards his claim is that if it > works on Windows it works, by definition, and that that's a > good thing. I don't agree with him about that last, but I > suspect mine is a minority view. > >> Windows drivers are just like the vendor drivers for >> Linux: everyone is doing their own thing. > > It would be nicer if they didn't do it that way, but what > would make them change? It's great that a few take notice of > Linux these days, but it'll be a long wait before many of > them develop on Linux and let the Windows community write > their own drivers. On a slightly related note, is it even possible to have a GPLed driver on Windows? Or are the NDIS development headers under a license precluding any GPLed drivers? (I'm asking because I'm planning to write a custom Broadcom driver for Windows that I want to open-source, and being able to use GPLed code from b43 would be of great help.) > > -- > Jón Fairbairn Jon.Fairbairn@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- Vista: [V]iruses, [I]ntruders, [S]pyware, [T]rojans and [A]dware. :-) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html