Yeah I remember such discussions in WiMAX Forum meetings but I do not know what became of it. This would be great, akin to what you have in the 3G world, so long as you at least get the 'serial' connection to the device you know whats happening. But you are right, vendors are just not interested. It's hard enough getting them to IOT with eachother let alone come up with a unified driver model.. Unless you buy a million, they just aint interested, and nobody wants to buy a million because nobody trusts (IMO) that there will be any support later on. *sheesh* -- Leigh From: batcilla at gmail.com [mailto:batcilla at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lavee Sent: 16 July 2010 14:26 To: Leigh Porter Cc: Othniel Graichen; wimax at linuxwimax.org Subject: Re: Wimax cards for laptop There (but not in this list) was idea, to develop some unified USB driver for linux and mWimax dongles, similar to madwimax but working with any USB dongle - that would be a solution. But this is well need some specifications from vendors and they not want to share. Idea was not make single stick to work in both foo and bar networks, but to have a driver which will acccept dongles prepared for both foo and bar networks. Idea still here, but vendors not interested in sharing even minimal specification, allowing to recognize and link up any USB dongle. BR Peter 2010/7/16 Leigh Porter <leigh.porter at ukbroadband.com> But it is not just end users. I have a number of applications that require Linux (transport stuff, signage etc) but there has been such little support for anything that we all but gave up on it all. The problem is indeed marketing, single minded marketing that does not see the larger picture of WiMAX use. It wouldn't be hard to develop Linux drivers, we have offered to pay to do so, but then try and get interface specs from vendors? No chance... And it still stands that interop is a bit of a disaster. You may well do OK using your foo USB stick on bar vendors network in biobongland, but when you take it to the US for Clearwire or the UK on our network, it'll most likely not work. -- Leigh From: batcilla at gmail.com [mailto:batcilla at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lavee Sent: 16 July 2010 14:11 To: Leigh Porter Cc: Othniel Graichen; wimax at linuxwimax.org Subject: Re: Wimax cards for laptop I disagree, it is just because of marketing approach. I cannot recall a company, which is selling net-book or laptop with Intel WiMAX Connection and Linux. USB sticks also has driver supporting mostly 32-bit Windows systems. Some vendors like Samsung+Yota provide also x86-64-bit support. If some major vendor target Linux based laptops - these problem will be solved very quickly. At least for USB-sticks - there is no power supply problem and any USB2 capable laptop can use it. I used even with ASUS EeePC-4G - is working. But reality is - End Users not want to use Linux. Even If they buy laptop with Linux - they buy it because it was cheaper, later install some windows on it. And mWimax dongles is mass-market Enduser device. So as soon EndUser will like Linux - as soon there will be a lot of supported dongles. This is my opinion. Regards Peter 2010/7/16 Leigh Porter <leigh.porter at ukbroadband.com> It is true, it is next to impossible. It is complete madness IMO and this manor of madness is really hurting WiMAX. When I can pick up a 3G anything, stick it in and it works and with WiMAX 1) you can barely get the modems 2) hardly any drivers available 3) when you do get one, it's 50/50 if it actually works with whatever vendor your provider uses. What an utter disaster. -- Leigh From: wimax-bounces at linuxwimax.org [mailto:wimax-bounces at linuxwimax.org] On Behalf Of Peter Lavee Sent: 16 July 2010 08:18 To: Othniel Graichen Cc: wimax at linuxwimax.org Subject: Re: Wimax cards for laptop I believe problem is well described in your letter. Nobody want it to be solved, because it is hard and unpredictable if you use old notebook with any recent mPCIex WiMAX card, even if your notebook has mPCIex slot, it may not be provide enough power for WiMAX card. With Intel WiMAX driver naturally only Intel cards would work. If you just need to run on Linux, you can try madwimax and CMC720 based USB dongle prepared for Clear (I'm not sure will be 100% interop or not). Hope I answered your question. Best regards, Peter Lavee 2010/7/16 Othniel Graichen <othniel at gmail.com> Dear Mailing List: I would purchase an Intel wimax card and Clear subscription for my Dell Inspiron D820. But this seems practically impossible. Ebay sellers say you need to verify that your machine works. Intel doesn't want to talk to end-users and Dell only wants to sell you a NEW notebook. Is there another wimax manufacturer which provides hardware compatible with the Linux Wimax driver? 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