Thank you to both Oliver and to you. I'll chase up the supplier over the cable. Would I be right to assume that this LaCie device (and other Seagate USB devices) will the added to the database of quirks? So that when Oliver's fix goes "mainstream" no-one will need to add options for modprobe? Hmm I wonder how long it will take the Ubuntu Kernel to catch up with Olivers patch? Thanks again, David -----Original Message----- From: 'Alan Stern' <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 08 December 2020 17:45 To: David C. Partridge <david.partridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: 'Oliver Neukum' <oneukum@xxxxxxxx>; linux-usb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Issues with LaCie USB3 drive and UAS On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 04:47:44PM -0000, David C. Partridge wrote: > >This is puzzling. The device connected at SuperSpeed in the previous > tests. Clearly this is related to the warning in the preceding line (the > port failed to configure its link partner). > > >What could have happened? A problem in the cable? > > Previous test was using a 3m long cable. > > Tried again with a 1m cable: > > Dec 08 16:38:30 charon kernel: usb 2-1: new SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device > number 2 using xhci_hcd ... So it worked. > I then tried again using the 3m long cable and got the same error as before > and connected at high-speed not SuperSpeed > > Should I expect problems with a 3m long cable or does this say the 3m long > cable is faulty? IT depends on the thickness (gauge) of the wires inside the cable. There's a table (11-3) in the USB-3.1 spec that lists maximum cable length for a variety of gauges. For AWG 28 the maximum cable length is 0.8 meters. For AWG 20 the maximum length is 5.3 meters. Your cable is likely to be somewhere in that range, but I don't know where. On the bright side, it looks like you have found the answer to all the problems. :-) Alan Stern
