Re: USB power fault question

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On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:01 AM, David Brownell wrote:

On Friday 24 April 2009, Kumar Gala wrote:
I'm hopping someone here might be able to help me understand better
what a USB Power fault condition is as referenced in the USB ULPI PHY
specifications.

I'm trying to understand better under physical conditions a power
fault would be signaled to the PHY and possible to the USB host
controller.

You want me to look at the ULPI spec for you?  :)

No, I was hoping you could translate it in a real world scenario for me :)

The two power faults that come to mind are both host side:

- One relates to the A_WAIT_VRISE transition, whereby
  VBUS must become valid within 100 msec after certain
  events.  In the best of all possible worlds, it's a
  nice gradual rise, no bumps.  More typically, it's
  got a current spike and becomes briefly invalid ...
  which *ought* to be just fine, since 100 msec hasn't
  yet elapsed, but silicon has been known to flake out.

- A similar one relates to current spikes *after* that
  transition.  In those cases, overcurrent errors are
  perfectly reasonable to treat as errors.

In short, VBUS going invalid in states other than
the A_WAIT_VFALL transitions.

Now, look at the spec and tell me where I goofed.  ;)

thanks, I'm not sure if this confuses me more or not :)

- k

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