On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Kris Lindgren <kris.lindgren@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Please use Reply-To-All so that your message gets sent to the mailing >> and not just to me. >> >> Also, please don't top-post. >> >> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017, Kris Lindgren wrote: >> >>> Sorry, Let me be more specific and answer your questions. >>> >>> Without any changes, I plugin the drive, it will fail with sector 0 >>> errors on any action that attempts to write against it. Such as >>> formating the volume, creating a folder, touching a file, ect ect. >>> Unloading usb_storage and reloading it with: >>> quirks=0bc2:3332:uw causes the drive to function without any issues. >>> Trying just quirks=0bc2:3332:u or quirks=0bc2:3332:t (as some other >>> people reported for other seagate explansions drives) still cause >>> sector 0 errors to show up. >> >> What happens with quirks=0bc2:3332:w (leave out the u)? >> And can you provide the output from lsusb -v for this device? > > The drive actually mounts and works fine. I was able to write 10GB to > it successfully at an average speed of ~133.9MB/s. > > # lsusb -v > > Bus 002 Device 011: ID 0bc2:3332 Seagate RSS LLC > Device Descriptor: > bLength 18 > bDescriptorType 1 > bcdUSB 3.00 > bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) > bDeviceSubClass 0 > bDeviceProtocol 0 > bMaxPacketSize0 9 > idVendor 0x0bc2 Seagate RSS LLC > idProduct 0x3332 > bcdDevice 0.12 > iManufacturer 1 Seagate > iProduct 2 External > iSerial 3 2GHP5NM9 > bNumConfigurations 1 > Configuration Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 2 > wTotalLength 44 > bNumInterfaces 1 > bConfigurationValue 1 > iConfiguration 0 > bmAttributes 0xc0 > Self Powered > MaxPower 24mA > Interface Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 4 > bInterfaceNumber 0 > bAlternateSetting 0 > bNumEndpoints 2 > bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage > bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI > bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip) > iInterface 0 > Endpoint Descriptor: > bLength 7 > bDescriptorType 5 > bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN > bmAttributes 2 > Transfer Type Bulk > Synch Type None > Usage Type Data > wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 0 bytes > bInterval 0 > UNRECOGNIZED: 06 30 0f 00 00 00 > Endpoint Descriptor: > bLength 7 > bDescriptorType 5 > bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT > bmAttributes 2 > Transfer Type Bulk > Synch Type None > Usage Type Data > wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 0 bytes > bInterval 0 > UNRECOGNIZED: 06 30 0f 00 00 00 > Device Status: 0x000d > Self Powered > Test Mode > > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > Device Descriptor: > bLength 18 > bDescriptorType 1 > bcdUSB 3.00 > bDeviceClass 9 Hub > bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused > bDeviceProtocol 3 > bMaxPacketSize0 9 > idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation > idProduct 0x0003 3.0 root hub > bcdDevice 4.02 > iManufacturer 3 Linux 4.2.8 xhci-hcd > iProduct 2 xHCI Host Controller > iSerial 1 0000:00:14.0 > bNumConfigurations 1 > Configuration Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 2 > wTotalLength 31 > bNumInterfaces 1 > bConfigurationValue 1 > iConfiguration 0 > bmAttributes 0xe0 > Self Powered > Remote Wakeup > MaxPower 0mA > Interface Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 4 > bInterfaceNumber 0 > bAlternateSetting 0 > bNumEndpoints 1 > bInterfaceClass 9 Hub > bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused > bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub > iInterface 0 > Endpoint Descriptor: > bLength 7 > bDescriptorType 5 > bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN > bmAttributes 3 > Transfer Type Interrupt > Synch Type None > Usage Type Data > wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes > bInterval 12 > UNRECOGNIZED: 06 30 00 00 02 00 > can't get hub descriptor: Broken pipe > Device Status: 0x0001 > Self Powered > > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1005:b155 Apacer Technology, Inc. > Device Descriptor: > bLength 18 > bDescriptorType 1 > bcdUSB 2.00 > bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) > bDeviceSubClass 0 > bDeviceProtocol 0 > bMaxPacketSize0 64 > idVendor 0x1005 Apacer Technology, Inc. > idProduct 0xb155 > bcdDevice 1.00 > iManufacturer 1 > iProduct 2 USB DISK MODULE > iSerial 3 190074BAA75C7223 > bNumConfigurations 1 > Configuration Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 2 > wTotalLength 32 > bNumInterfaces 1 > bConfigurationValue 1 > iConfiguration 0 > bmAttributes 0x80 > (Bus Powered) > MaxPower 300mA > Interface Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 4 > bInterfaceNumber 0 > bAlternateSetting 0 > bNumEndpoints 2 > bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage > bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI > bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip) > iInterface 0 > Endpoint Descriptor: > bLength 7 > bDescriptorType 5 > bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN > bmAttributes 2 > Transfer Type Bulk > Synch Type None > Usage Type Data > wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes > bInterval 0 > Endpoint Descriptor: > bLength 7 > bDescriptorType 5 > bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT > bmAttributes 2 > Transfer Type Bulk > Synch Type None > Usage Type Data > wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes > bInterval 0 > Device Qualifier (for other device speed): > bLength 10 > bDescriptorType 6 > bcdUSB 2.00 > bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) > bDeviceSubClass 0 > bDeviceProtocol 0 > bMaxPacketSize0 64 > bNumConfigurations 1 > Device Status: 0x0000 > (Bus Powered) > > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Device Descriptor: > bLength 18 > bDescriptorType 1 > bcdUSB 2.00 > bDeviceClass 9 Hub > bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused > bDeviceProtocol 1 Single TT > bMaxPacketSize0 64 > idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation > idProduct 0x0002 2.0 root hub > bcdDevice 4.02 > iManufacturer 3 Linux 4.2.8 xhci-hcd > iProduct 2 xHCI Host Controller > iSerial 1 0000:00:14.0 > bNumConfigurations 1 > Configuration Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 2 > wTotalLength 25 > bNumInterfaces 1 > bConfigurationValue 1 > iConfiguration 0 > bmAttributes 0xe0 > Self Powered > Remote Wakeup > MaxPower 0mA > Interface Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 4 > bInterfaceNumber 0 > bAlternateSetting 0 > bNumEndpoints 1 > bInterfaceClass 9 Hub > bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused > bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub > iInterface 0 > Endpoint Descriptor: > bLength 7 > bDescriptorType 5 > bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN > bmAttributes 3 > Transfer Type Interrupt > Synch Type None > Usage Type Data > wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes > bInterval 12 > Hub Descriptor: > bLength 9 > bDescriptorType 41 > nNbrPorts 7 > wHubCharacteristic 0x000a > No power switching (usb 1.0) > Per-port overcurrent protection > TT think time 8 FS bits > bPwrOn2PwrGood 10 * 2 milli seconds > bHubContrCurrent 0 milli Ampere > DeviceRemovable 0xd8 > PortPwrCtrlMask 0xff > Hub Port Status: > Port 1: 0000.0100 power > Port 2: 0000.0100 power > Port 3: 0000.0100 power > Port 4: 0000.0100 power > Port 5: 0000.0503 highspeed power enable connect > Port 6: 0000.0100 power > Port 7: 0000.0100 power > Device Status: 0x0001 > Self Powered > > >> >>> Re: running kernel 4.2.8 - This device is specifically a qnap NAS - I >>> am not yet familiar enough with their firmware/busybox install to >>> attempt custom compiling a different kernel and booting a headless >>> system. As such I do not currently have an easy way to rebuild the >>> nas onto a newer kernel to test the latest. I asked about unusual_uas >>> - because I have seen other Seagate devices that needed to populated >>> in there to work correctly. Thus I had assumed that is what needed to >>> do here. >> >> What happens if you plug the disk drive into a regular Linux desktop >> computer? Remember, if an unusual_uas.h entry is added, it will affect >> those machines too. > > I will need to get back to you on this. All of my other machines > running linux, only have usb2.0 hubs. They are also haven't been used > in some time and are running older versions of Ubuntu. I upgraded a machine to the latest Ubuntu LTS distro - which is using the 4.4 kernel When plugging in the drive without any modification, the drive fails to mount. Dmesg output: [ 378.353553] usb 2-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-pci [ 378.489981] usb 2-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0bc2, idProduct=3332 [ 378.489985] usb 2-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 378.489987] usb 2-1.3: Product: External [ 378.489989] usb 2-1.3: Manufacturer: Seagate [ 378.489990] usb 2-1.3: SerialNumber: 2GHP5NM9 [ 378.650153] usb-storage 2-1.3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [ 378.650267] scsi host6: usb-storage 2-1.3:1.0 [ 378.650359] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage [ 378.684653] usbcore: registered new interface driver uas [ 379.651163] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Seagate External SG12 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 [ 379.651892] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [ 379.652324] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 3907029164 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 TB/1.82 TiB) [ 379.653077] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 379.653081] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00 [ 379.654529] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA [ 379.723781] sdb: sdb1 [ 379.726584] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk [ 379.907727] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [ 379.907737] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Hardware Error [current] [descriptor] [ 379.907741] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: No additional sense information [ 379.907747] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: ATA command pass through(16) 85 06 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e5 00 [ 380.008600] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [ 380.008608] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Hardware Error [current] [descriptor] [ 380.008611] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: No additional sense information [ 380.008616] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: ATA command pass through(12)/Blank a1 06 20 da 00 00 4f c2 00 b0 00 00 [ 380.426654] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [ 380.426662] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] [ 380.426666] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: Invalid field in cdb [ 380.426670] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Synchronize Cache(10) 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 [ 380.426677] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdb, sector 0 [ 380.426692] JBD2: recovery failed [ 380.426698] EXT4-fs (sdb1): error loading journal kernel version is: 4.4.0-93-generic I am working on upgrading to the latest release - which should give a 4.10 kernel > >> >> Alan Stern >> >>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Kris Lindgren wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hello all, >>> >> >>> >> I have a Seagate External HDD PN: 9sean2-500 that works fine on USB2.0 >>> >> ports (and older kernels) however when connected to usb3.0 port on >>> >> newer kernels, the drive fails any write access. >>> > >>> > This bug report seems to be a little confused. (Or maybe I'm the one >>> > who's confused...) >>> > >>> >> dmesg >>> >> [ 7232.155430] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd >>> >> [ 7232.366548] usb-storage 1-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected >>> >> [ 7232.372833] scsi host6: usb-storage 1-1:1.0 >>> > >>> > Why do you want to change unusual_uas.h, given that the device uses the >>> > usb_storage driver and not the uas driver? >>> > >>> >> [ 7232.407777] [usb.001.003] >>> >> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1 added. (MTP mode) >>> >> [ 7233.378161] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7233.382213] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Seagate External >>> >> SG12 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 >>> >> [ 7233.391359] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7233.395405] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7233.399446] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7233.403597] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7233.407925] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 3907029164 512-byte logical blocks: >>> >> (2.00 TB/1.81 TiB) >>> >> [ 7233.408284] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7233.409122] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 >>> >> [ 7233.425138] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7233.429258] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off >>> >> [ 7233.434082] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00 >>> >> [ 7233.434725] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: >>> >> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA >>> >> [ 7233.509519] sdc: sdc1 >>> >> [ 7233.514748] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk >>> >> [ 7233.519392] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [ 7234.604324] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.634329] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.648551] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.666908] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.680716] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.696723] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.709937] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.725250] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.739041] blk_update_request: critical target error, dev sdc, sector 0 >>> >> [ 7234.894452] JBD2: recovery failed >>> >> >>> >> lsusb: >>> >> # lsusb >>> >> Bus 002 Device 011: ID 0bc2:3332 Seagate RSS LLC >>> >> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub >>> >> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1005:b155 Apacer Technology, Inc. >>> >> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>> >> >>> >> uname: >>> >> # uname -a >>> >> Linux NAS 4.2.8 #1 SMP Fri Sep 1 01:08:22 CST 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux >>> > >>> > Why aren't you using an up-to-date kernel version, such as 4.13? A lot >>> > of bugs have been fixed since 4.2 was released. >>> > >>> >> I did some looking around and based upon a suse article I unloaded the >>> >> usb_storage and reloaded it with: >>> >> insmod /lib/modules/misc/usb-storage.ko quirks=0bc2:3332:uw >>> >> >>> >> I also tried: quirks=0bc2:3332:u, quirks=0bc2:3332:t and both of those >>> >> still resulted in sector 0 errors. >>> > >>> > The u flag means not to use the uas driver, which the system wasn't >>> > doing anyway. The w flag means to skip testing whether the drive is >>> > write-protected, which doesn't seem to be relevant in your case >>> > (judging by the log messages). The t flag means to disallow ATA >>> > commands, and it used only by the uas driver (not by usb-storage). So >>> > it isn't relevant in your case either. >>> > >>> >> Since then the drive works without any issues: >>> > >>> > This contradicts what you just said about these quirk flags resulting >>> > in sector 0 errors. >>> > >>> >> dmesg: >>> >> 87955.810319] usbcore: deregistering interface driver usb-storage >>> >> [87955.817949] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [87955.836434] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88077.114724] usb-storage 1-5:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected >>> >> [88077.121004] scsi host7: usb-storage 1-5:1.0 >>> >> [88077.125558] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage >>> >> [88078.125454] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88078.129499] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB DISK >>> >> MODULE PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS >>> >> [88078.139018] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88078.143076] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88078.147121] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88078.151230] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88078.155366] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88078.155800] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] 1007616 512-byte logical blocks: (515 >>> >> MB/492 MiB) >>> >> [88078.159485] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off >>> >> [88078.159490] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 >>> >> [88078.166791] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found >>> >> [88078.166794] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through >>> >> [88078.183745] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 >>> >> [88078.184349] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 sdb4 < sdb5 sdb6 > >>> >> [88078.196597] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88078.207147] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk >>> >> [88078.215229] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88176.094207] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Command completion event does >>> >> not match command >>> >> [88176.101804] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Timeout while waiting for setup >>> >> device command >>> >> [88181.326070] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Timeout while waiting for setup >>> >> device command >>> >> [88181.534044] usb 2-1: device not accepting address 9, error -62 >>> >> [88183.336151] usb 2-1: new SuperSpeed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd >>> >> [88183.357090] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected >>> >> [88183.363355] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: Quirks match for vid 0bc2 pid 3332: 800200 >>> >> [88183.370500] scsi host8: usb-storage 2-1:1.0 >>> >> [88183.666134] [usb.002.011] >>> >> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb2/2-1 added. (MTP mode) >>> >> [88184.375643] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88184.379689] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access Seagate External >>> >> SG12 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 >>> >> [88184.387937] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88184.391992] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88184.396033] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88184.400153] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88184.404274] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88184.408454] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 >>> >> [88184.415358] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] 3907029164 512-byte logical blocks: >>> >> (2.00 TB/1.81 TiB) >>> >> [88184.423138] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming Write Enabled >>> >> [88184.428183] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through >>> >> [88184.434391] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88184.501083] sdc: sdc1 >>> >> [88184.505346] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk >>> >> [88184.510108] Check proc_name[usb-storage]. >>> >> [88185.285582] ufsd: "mount" (sdc1): is mounted as NTFS at 2017-09-16 09:22:29 >>> >> [88187.705544] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88187.713636] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88265.766096] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88265.771943] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88270.738679] ufsd: "umount" (sdc1): is unmounted at 2017-09-16 09:23:54 >>> >> [88272.804359] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88272.809101] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88280.727432] ext4_init_reserve_inode_table0: sdc1, 0 >>> >> [88280.732722] ext4_init_reserve_inode_table2: sdc1, 14905, 14905, 1907839, 4096 >>> >> [88280.742043] EXT4-fs (sdc1): mounted filesystem with ordered data >>> >> mode. Opts: usrjquota=aquota.user,jqfmt=vfsv0,user_xattr,data=ordered,delalloc,noacl >>> >> [88281.726223] EXT4-fs (device sdc1): ext4lazyinit start (start from >>> >> 0, total 14905) >>> >> [88282.800045] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88282.804821] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88287.456613] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88287.461512] flashcache flashcache_ioctl 21297 >>> >> [88360.898993] EXT4-fs (device sdc1): ext4lazyinit finish >>> >> >>> >> I am currently sustaining 100+ MB/s writes to the drive with those >>> >> quirks flags added without any other changes. >>> > >>> > Which quirk flags? You listed several possibilities, and none of them >>> > seemed appropriate. >>> > >>> >> I looked at drivers/usb/storage/unusual_uas.h for my kernel (4.2.8) >>> >> and the latest master. It does not appear that this device is >>> >> specifically called out as having an unusual uas, other very close >>> >> Seagate drives do appear in that list. What do you need from me to >>> >> get this added? >>> > >>> > Exactly what do you want to add? >>> > >>> > Alan Stern >>> > >>> >> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html