Re: how to instrument/debug module loading

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On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:28:32AM -0400, Cliff Brake wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 08:20:09AM -0400, Cliff Brake wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying to better understand the kernel module loading mechanism
>> >> (for example when you plug in a USB device and a kernel module
>> >> autoloads).  It appears that depmod creates a module.alias map that
>> >> maps USB info to modules.  Is there any way to instrument or observe
>> >> the actual loading process?
>> >
>> > Why do you need to "observe" it?  You can always use kprobes or some
>> > tracing tool to see the filesystem accesses if you really care about
>> > this.
>> >
>> > But it should all "just work", right?  Is something failing for you?
>>
>> Its working great -- more just a point of curiosity -- would like to
>> understand what user-space tool is actually getting called to do the
>> module loading.  Especially since the /sbin/hotplug location/mechanism
>> seems to have changed -- seems we should get some of the documentation
>> updated (unless I'm missing something).  Thanks for the kprobes idea
>> -- will look into that and kernel source ...
>>
>> (BTW, this curiosity was motivated by a Eudyptula Challenge exercise)
>
> Not good, that's against the rules, last time I checked...

Sigh -- this is very demotivating.  I thought a simple dmesg would
good enough "proof" for the Eudyptula Challenge.  The intent here was
NOT to cheat on the Eudyptula Challenge, but to go beyond what I
thought the Eudyptula Challenge required and hopefully fix up some
kernel documentation (Documentation/usb/hotplug.txt) -- perhaps its
all correct and up to date and I'm just missing something ...

I'm not a profilic kernel guy, but I have made several contributions
in the past, and have been helping companies implement various
products using Linux + OpenEmbedded over the past 15 years.

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/?qt=author&q=Cliff+Brake

So my intent was simply honest discussion.  Sorry this was clear -- I
will go my way and not bother you busy folks any more.

Cliff
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