Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] Provide in-kernel headers to make extending kernel easier
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- Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] Provide in-kernel headers to make extending kernel easier
- From: Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:21:16 -0400
- Cc: Karim Yaghmour <karim.yaghmour@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Kees Cook <keescook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Olof Johansson <olof@xxxxxxxxx>, Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@xxxxxxx>, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@xxxxxxx>, Manoj Rao <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@xxxxxxxxxx>, atish patra <atishp04@xxxxxxxxx>, Daniel Colascione <dancol@xxxxxxxxxx>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@xxxxxxxxx>, Guenter Roeck <groeck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@xxxxxxx>, Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" <linux-kselftest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-trace-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@xxxxxxxxxx>, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Shuah Khan <shuah@xxxxxxxxxx>, Yonghong Song <yhs@xxxxxx>
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:45:09AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:32:37 -0400
> Karim Yaghmour <karim.yaghmour@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > >>> Then we should perhaps make a new file system call tarballs ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> /sys/kernel/tarballs/
> > >>>
> > >>> and place everything there. That way it removes it from /proc (which is
> > >>> the worse place for that) and also makes it something other than debug.
> > >>> That's what I did for tracefs.
> > >>
> > >> As horrible as that suggestion is, it does kind of make sense :)
> > >>
> > >> We can't put this in debugfs as that's only for debugging and systems
> > >> should never have that mounted for normal operations (users want to
> > >> build ebpf programs), and /proc really should be for processes but that
> > >> horse is long left the barn.
> > >>
> > >> But, I'm willing to consider putting this either in a system-fs-like
> > >> filesystem, or just in sysfs itself, we do have /sys/kernel/ to play
> > >> around in if the main objection is that we should not be cluttering up
> > >> /proc with stuff like this.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I am ok with the suggestion of /sys/kernel for the archive. That also seems
> > > to fit well with the idea that the headers are kernel related and probably
> > > belong here more strictly speaking, than /proc.
> >
> > This makes sense. And if it alleviates concerns regarding extending
> > /proc ABIs then might as well switch to this.
> >
> > Olof, what do you think of this?
>
> BTW, the name "tarballs" was kind of a joke. Probably should come up
> with a better name. Although, I'm fine with tarballsfs ;-)
:-)
In theory, the headers could also be hosted in tracefs since the scope of the
patch right now is to help tracing tools (BCC / eBPF). Although /sys/kernel
might be better in case the scope is expanded to other things.
thanks,
- Joel
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