Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] Provide in-kernel headers to make extending kernel easier
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- Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] Provide in-kernel headers to make extending kernel easier
- From: Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:04:40 +0000
- Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Kees Cook <keescook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Olof Johansson <olof@xxxxxxxxx>, Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@xxxxxxxxxx>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@xxxxxxx>, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@xxxxxxx>, Manoj Rao <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@xxxxxxxxxx>, atish patra <atishp04@xxxxxxxxx>, Daniel Colascione <dancol@xxxxxxxxxx>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@xxxxxxxxx>, Guenter Roeck <groeck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@xxxxxxx>, Karim Yaghmour <karim.yaghmour@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" <linux-kselftest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-trace-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@xxxxxxxxxx>, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Shuah Khan <shuah@xxxxxxxxxx>, Yonghong Song <yhs@xxxxxx>
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:49:39PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 08:33:06AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:50:10 -0500
> > Kees Cook <keescook@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:41 AM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > I agree with this assessment. We shouldn't use config.gz as precedence
> > > > for this solution. config.gz should have been in debugfs to begin with,
> > > > but I don't believe debugfs was around when config.gz was introduced.
> > > > (Don't have time to look into the history of the two).
> > >
> > > I don't agree with this: /proc/config.gz is used by a lot of tools
> > > that do sanity-check of running systems. This isn't _debugging_...
> > > it's verifying correct kernel builds. It's a fancy version of checking
> > > /proc/version.
> > >
> >
> > Then we should perhaps make a new file system call tarballs ;-)
> >
> > /sys/kernel/tarballs/
> >
> > and place everything there. That way it removes it from /proc (which is
> > the worse place for that) and also makes it something other than debug.
> > That's what I did for tracefs.
>
> As horrible as that suggestion is, it does kind of make sense :)
>
> We can't put this in debugfs as that's only for debugging and systems
> should never have that mounted for normal operations (users want to
> build ebpf programs), and /proc really should be for processes but that
> horse is long left the barn.
>
> But, I'm willing to consider putting this either in a system-fs-like
> filesystem, or just in sysfs itself, we do have /sys/kernel/ to play
> around in if the main objection is that we should not be cluttering up
> /proc with stuff like this.
>
I am ok with the suggestion of /sys/kernel for the archive. That also seems
to fit well with the idea that the headers are kernel related and probably
belong here more strictly speaking, than /proc.
thanks,
- Joel
> thanks,
>
> greg k-h
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