Caveat: rant ahead. This is a long standing issue. It has been brought already in this very same list back in November 2018: https://linux-speakup.org/pipermail/speakup/2018-November/061514.html To which I responded: https://linux-speakup.org/pipermail/speakup/2018-November/061514.html Then Samuel: https://linux-speakup.org/pipermail/speakup/2018-November/061516.html Let me quote his answer's conclusion: Now, as you mentioned, Slint does not have the issue, because it uses the dmix plugin. Now, to repeat myself: - it would be useful to document how to configure dmix on the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility - enabling dmix by default in Debian could be an option, it "just" needs to be discussed with the alsa maintainers. If nobody takes the time to do this, we'll stay with the issue. <end of quote> Looks like the situation hasn't changed since then, although this issue has been reported long ago to Debian: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=897657 End of rant. Be well, Didier Le 05/09/2024 à 00:23, Jookia a écrit : > Hi there, > > Did the non-GUI consoles work when you followed my instructions? > If so then it's probably that you needed to blindly login as espeakup was > running as your user but you didn't have Orca running as your user, it > was instead running as the system user. > > The short answer is that you're not going to be able to have speakup and > Orca read login prompts. You have to pick one and blindly type in the > other. There's no easy way to fix this on a modern Linux desktop. > > Jookia. > > On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 04:40:10PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: >> So, I followed your very linear straight-forward >> instructions, Steps 1, 2, 3 and 4 and ended up with the only >> difference being that I could not log in to orca. Normally, I >> faintly heare the prompt to press the pushbutton to log >> in. I do and the same faint speakup voice prompts for password. >> Everytime I press a key, I hear the faint confirmation of "black >> circle" and then it gets much louder and the pitch changes, >> saying "Screen reader on" when I sent the correct password. >> >> I see no evidence of problems with gnome and want to keep >> it that way. >> >> After following the instructions and rebooting, the >> commands in step 4 of >> >> systemctl --user enable espeakup >> loginctl enable-linger >> sudo gpasswd -a $USER audio >> >> >> seemed to be what kept me from hearing that faint login prompt >> any longer. As soon as I ran >> >> systemctl --user enable espeakup >> loginctl disable-linger >> >> >> the faint login messages were restored. I also, for now, removed >> the lines added in Steps 2 and 3 in case they also had some >> effect. I am also already a member of group audio so that part >> was not an issue. >> >> The 3 non-GUI consoles never talked but I knew I had >> opened them by logging in and running a script I wrote called >> siggen which tells sox to send a steady sine-wave tone or >> generate pink noise which is similar to the sound you hear when >> an FM radio is between channels or one is running a noise >> generator which is handy in audio testing situations. >> >> Basically, orca is running espeakup and the distribution >> doesn't let you install speakup along with that. Speakup is not >> there. >> >
