They did a long time back. But they still use freedomscientific.com, so I will still refer to them as FS. I don't know how to spell their name, it sounds like the name of a bird. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 2:27 PM Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) Jude DaShiell here, the Wufrug Group I think from Kuwait bought out FS. By now, Wufrug Group may have sold FS to another corporation for all I know. On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > Well since Orca seems to work on so many distros, I don't know why FS > would > not be able to do the same. > If Jaws users could switch into Linux, it would be a real game changer, > and > I think with lots more Blind Linux users, we would start seeing > accessibility in Linux not being a second thought. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> > Cc: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; > <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) > > > Well technically freedom scientific does not exist any longer, being > bought > by another company. > Still, I can respect why they, or nvda have not created their tools for > Linux. > That is because as I understand it, Linux is quite like clay. You can > mold a distribution into almost anything. there are various > personifications of the system, all sorts of ways and changes and options > for creativity. > however adaptive tools are often extensions of physical characteristics, > hands, eyes, ears, brains, combinations of these. > To build solid assistive tools one must have a solid foundation as it > were. that is part of why there have needed to be so few Apple efforts > at > inclusion, they created with, and then created in-house adaptive tools > for various populations that were built into the system. > Although Microsoft did not bother until much later, in theory at least, > the > consistency of windows is what makes it possible for freedom or the former > gw micro or nvda to create something that can in theory work. > Floor for the furniture is somewhat solid. > Just my thoughts, > > > > On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > > > I would like to see Freedom Scientific make a Jaws For Linux. > > JFL > > I'd certainly pay the yearly rental fee for it, and it would bring many > > more > > users into Linux. > > FS could, with its resources, possibly make it more robust than Orca. > > > > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Cc: <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 12:08 PM > > Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) > > > > > >>>>>> "KL" == Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > > KL> What bothers me most are his lack of actual qualifications, and > > KL> absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced..as if he > > KL> defines Linux usage for everyone. That attitude is dangerous, > > KL> because he is educating those outside of the accessibility > > KL> experiences, who will believe his ignorance is factual. he has > > KL> to be expert, it is his job. > > > > Hi Karen, > > > > I know Lukas personally and I admire his skills and qualifications. I > > also know first hand that he is open to constructive feedback and I > > believe he?d be happy to be corrected about possible technical > > inaccuracies in the interview. It may be also a good opportunity to > > find out what?s possibly missing in making anybody better informed. > > > > As for ?absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced?, what > > reasonable free software alternatives to a less or more standard desktop > > with Orca and a software synthesizer can you see for a common blind user > > who needs to use a fully working web browser, to read and process text > > documents, to be compatible with other computer users, etc.? > > > > And let?s be realistic. We celebrate every single developer hired to > > improve accessibility. This tells something about the state of the > > matters. We cannot expect that a single person will fix all the kinds > > of accessibility problems in all the environments. Lukas works at his > > job focusing on certain areas currently seen there as urgent ones and I > > appreciate this opportunity. Anybody else seeing a need to work on > > other areas is welcome to contribute to whatever sees fit, as I do. > > > > Regards, > > Milan > > > > > > > > > > >
