Well since Orca seems to work on so many distros, I don't know why FS would not be able to do the same. If Jaws users could switch into Linux, it would be a real game changer, and I think with lots more Blind Linux users, we would start seeing accessibility in Linux not being a second thought. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> Cc: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 1:47 PM Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) Well technically freedom scientific does not exist any longer, being bought by another company. Still, I can respect why they, or nvda have not created their tools for Linux. That is because as I understand it, Linux is quite like clay. You can mold a distribution into almost anything. there are various personifications of the system, all sorts of ways and changes and options for creativity. however adaptive tools are often extensions of physical characteristics, hands, eyes, ears, brains, combinations of these. To build solid assistive tools one must have a solid foundation as it were. that is part of why there have needed to be so few Apple efforts at inclusion, they created with, and then created in-house adaptive tools for various populations that were built into the system. Although Microsoft did not bother until much later, in theory at least, the consistency of windows is what makes it possible for freedom or the former gw micro or nvda to create something that can in theory work. Floor for the furniture is somewhat solid. Just my thoughts, On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > I would like to see Freedom Scientific make a Jaws For Linux. > JFL > I'd certainly pay the yearly rental fee for it, and it would bring many > more > users into Linux. > FS could, with its resources, possibly make it more robust than Orca. > > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) > > >>>>>> "KL" == Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > KL> What bothers me most are his lack of actual qualifications, and > KL> absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced..as if he > KL> defines Linux usage for everyone. That attitude is dangerous, > KL> because he is educating those outside of the accessibility > KL> experiences, who will believe his ignorance is factual. he has > KL> to be expert, it is his job. > > Hi Karen, > > I know Lukas personally and I admire his skills and qualifications. I > also know first hand that he is open to constructive feedback and I > believe he’d be happy to be corrected about possible technical > inaccuracies in the interview. It may be also a good opportunity to > find out what’s possibly missing in making anybody better informed. > > As for “absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced”, what > reasonable free software alternatives to a less or more standard desktop > with Orca and a software synthesizer can you see for a common blind user > who needs to use a fully working web browser, to read and process text > documents, to be compatible with other computer users, etc.? > > And let’s be realistic. We celebrate every single developer hired to > improve accessibility. This tells something about the state of the > matters. We cannot expect that a single person will fix all the kinds > of accessibility problems in all the environments. Lukas works at his > job focusing on certain areas currently seen there as urgent ones and I > appreciate this opportunity. Anybody else seeing a need to work on > other areas is welcome to contribute to whatever sees fit, as I do. > > Regards, > Milan > > > >
