Hi Kirk,
some answers inline after the quotes.
Le 19/09/2021 à 16:09, Kirk Reiser a écrit :
It also seems to me that we have two different situations wrt distros,
general communities like debian, ubuntu, arch etc and those that are
specially put together for the blind community like debuan, slint and
others I don't remember there names of anymore. I'd kind of like to
know what people think of those situations is it better to be separate
or part of the whole? The inclusion of pulseaudio for example in
packages could make a difference those theose who want it and those
who don't. This is of course an issue that doesn't just have merit to
the accessibility community of speakup. Huh, does anyone use
pcaudiolib other than espeak, just wondering.
In Slint we ship pulseaudio but start it only on demand if a software
needs it.
Nobody complained so far, that's all I know.
Slint is not put together for the blind community, I just make sure that
it's
stay fully usable by blind folks, but nothing prevents a sighted individual
like me to use it ;)
The whole question of whether a package should run as root or a
regular user is another interesting question. I don't think that
espeakup would have broken if some group hadn't decided that one way
was better than an other for everybody. Once again personally I like
the idea of running as an individual user but I also want access to
devices from boot-up on and not loading accessibility until a user
logs in is a non-starter there imo.
In Slint a hard synth can be used as soon as the relevant speakup module is
loaded, and espeakup is started just after udev.
This being said it's always possible to read the messages from boot up after
having logged in using dmesg.
Didier, does slint have a bootable image for the RaspBerry Pi 4B?
Espeakup on raspbian and debian is fucked in completely different ways
on that platform.
Alas no, as I do not have the time to maintain another arch than x86_64. But
volunteers to do that are welcome...
Kirk
On Sun, 19 Sep 2021, Didier Spaier wrote:
Hi Kirk,
answering inline.
Le 18/09/2021 à 21:26, Kirk Reiser a écrit :
Huh, are you running arch on that box as well? I am wondering if
speakup is even loaded. I noticed in the espeakup build systemd
services that it loads speakup_soft when the systemd service is
started.
I'm not crazy about that being the way to load speakup particularly
but I'm not that familiar with various distros way of doing things but
it appears the espeakup maintainers figure everyone is running
systemd.
To be clear you mean the packagers of most distributions right? there
is no
mention of systemd in the source code, of course.
As a counter example the daemon manager for Slint is attached.
That's one of the reasons I mentioned getting folks opinions in my
last message to you. For people that don't run systemd it will
certainly break things.
Cheers,
Didier
