>From personal experience, ArchLinux is just about as good a command-line environment as you’re likely to get. The TalkingArch CD works very well for installing, and you’re left with a setup which is minimal and easy to learn from. I highly recommend you switch to trying to mess with that. > On Jan 30, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt <timothyjb310@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > That is good to know. I was afraid that a lot of the tools were not > command line based. Oh well. perhaps I will just set up an arch linux > vm and play with that. > > I would still like to learn how to setup speakup, but Kali is probably > not the best to do that with. > > Thanks for all of the replies, > > TJ Breitenfeldt > > On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Tim, >> >> A lot of kali's tools need to be run from the GUI, My personal preference is >> to use the mate desktop but that is because I got started in Linux under the >> old gnome 2 interface and haven't gotten used to the new unity/gnome3 >> interface. >> >> Unfortunately when I installed kali into a vm I couldn't get mate with orca >> to work, so I am trying to debug that problem. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Timothy Breitenfeldt [mailto:timothyjb310@xxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:23 AM >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux >> >> Hi, my apologies for not being clear in my last post. I am using Kali >> because I want to learn about the security tools Kali has. I will keep in >> mind that arch is a better option for this though. >> >> The output of >> locate speakup.ko >> >> /lib/modules/4.12.0-kali1-amd66/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup /speakup.ko >> >> For now, I am just looking to get eSpeak working on it, my goal is to >> install voxin, which is what I am using for orca right now. >> Kali does have built in support for a talking installer using speakup. >> I believe Kali is very similar to Debian, if that helps at all. >> >> TJ Breitenfeldt >> >> On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Kali is an odd choice for someone just wanting a console-based linux >>> distro. >>> Ubuntu server is another good choice. >>> >>> If, however you are looking for security tools then kali is a good choice. >>> The kali installer is accessible since it is based on the debian >>> talking installer. I haven't checked lately but if I remember right >>> speakup does not come pre-installed in kali, although I hope to be >>> working on a custom kali version that will be more accessible (when I have >>> a few minutes). >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@xxxxxxxxxxx] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:13 AM >>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux >>> >>> So, I have to ask, why Kali Linux, specifically? It's strikes me as a >>> rather oddball choice. >>> >>> >>> The post you reference below isn't particularly pertinent to running >>> Speakup, and you still haven't told us whether Kali comes with >>> Speakup, or whether it's on you to add it into the installation. Once >>> again, what's the output of: >>> >>> locate speakup.ko >>> >>> Suggestion: You may have much more success with a distribution like >>> Arch which supports Speakup out of the box, and which has a talking >>> installation >>> available: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.archlinux.or >>> g_index.php_TalkingArch&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65 >>> eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2 >>> ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=JUxYZ5Z1WwEmJvd1TAXM8buhPH2soZMlw95_z >>> 0Owg2o&e= >>> >>> If you go this way you'll only have the console unless you explicitly >>> install a GUI desktop. >>> >>> There are other choices, but the above is a good way to get to a >>> functioning system with minimul fuss. >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Timothy Breitenfeldt writes: >>>> Thank you for the replies. I am still fairly new to using Linux, I am >>>> a computer science major and am currently taking a C and unix class >>>> right now. I now feel comfortable enough with the basics to switch to >>>> using only a shell for access. I have played with Linux for a while, >>>> and have always preferred the console over Gnome desktop GUI for >>>> accessibility. I have almost no vision, and am currently using orca. >>>> >>>> Here is the link to the post I referred to on getting speakup running >>>> on Kali. >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.o >>>> r >>>> g_pipermail_speakup_2015-2DMay_058755.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHv >>>> l >>>> ZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZ >>>> p >>>> 9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=vmyx_v68qcFfCRezo >>>> f >>>> UMWegnKnffKCl31dEy6rITmwc&e= >>>> >>>> I followed all of the instructions here, and saw no change. Speakup >>>> never came up talking at the bootup screen. I tried typing speakup >>>> into the terminal while in gnome, but it didn't recognize the command. >>>> >>>> I don't know much about the kernel yet, it is something I will learn >>>> next quarter along with other operating system concepts. >>>> >>>> Thank you for the tip on switching to console mode. I would assume >>>> that I can switch back to Gnome using the same shortcut I used to >>>> switched to console mode (ctrl+alt+ 1-6)? >>>> >>>> Can someone take a look at this post and see if you can help? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> TJ Breitenfeldt >>>> >>>> On 1/27/18, Kirk Reiser <kirk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> To answer the other portion of your query, to move from a gui >>>>> console to a text console just type control-alt-f1 or any other of >>>>> the function keys from 1 to six. You can learn to kill off gnome >>>>> and gdm at a later point if you find you're happy using console mode. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Okash Khawaja wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Timothy, >>>>>> >>>>>> Welcome to speakup :) >>>>>> >>>>>> There is >>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeaku >>>>>> p.org_spkguide.txt&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65e >>>>>> apI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e >>>>>> 9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=2x78Ze1FfDGA2IUei89_yMxCCO9K_R >>>>>> nin6X8pL2i0yU&e= >>>>>> which should help. >>>>>> Basically you need two kernel modules loaded. One is speakup.ko >>>>>> and the other depends upon which synthesizer you want to use. So >>>>>> for example for Apollo you'll need speakup_apollo.ko. You can also >>>>>> use software synth speakup_soft.ko if you don't have a hardware synth. >>>>>> All supported synths are mentioned in spkguide linked above. >>>>>> >>>>>> If it's a hardware synth then the two kernel modules is all you need. >>>>>> If it's speakup_soft.ko then some user-space text-to-speech >>>>>> software will be required. If you can explain where you're getting >>>>>> stuck then we can help more :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> Okash >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt >>>>>> <timothyjb310@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, i recently installed Kali onto an old laptop. I would really >>>>>>> like to just run Kali in console mode and completely ignore the >>>>>>> GUI .To do this, I know I need speakup. I found a couple >>>>>>> refferences in the archives for this mailing list, but I couldn't >>>>>>> get it to work with the instructions given. 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