That is good to know. I was afraid that a lot of the tools were not command line based. Oh well. perhaps I will just set up an arch linux vm and play with that. I would still like to learn how to setup speakup, but Kali is probably not the best to do that with. Thanks for all of the replies, TJ Breitenfeldt On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Tim, > > A lot of kali's tools need to be run from the GUI, My personal preference is > to use the mate desktop but that is because I got started in Linux under the > old gnome 2 interface and haven't gotten used to the new unity/gnome3 > interface. > > Unfortunately when I installed kali into a vm I couldn't get mate with orca > to work, so I am trying to debug that problem. > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Breitenfeldt [mailto:timothyjb310@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:23 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux > > Hi, my apologies for not being clear in my last post. I am using Kali > because I want to learn about the security tools Kali has. I will keep in > mind that arch is a better option for this though. > > The output of > locate speakup.ko > > /lib/modules/4.12.0-kali1-amd66/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup /speakup.ko > > For now, I am just looking to get eSpeak working on it, my goal is to > install voxin, which is what I am using for orca right now. > Kali does have built in support for a talking installer using speakup. > I believe Kali is very similar to Debian, if that helps at all. > > TJ Breitenfeldt > > On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Kali is an odd choice for someone just wanting a console-based linux >> distro. >> Ubuntu server is another good choice. >> >> If, however you are looking for security tools then kali is a good choice. >> The kali installer is accessible since it is based on the debian >> talking installer. I haven't checked lately but if I remember right >> speakup does not come pre-installed in kali, although I hope to be >> working on a custom kali version that will be more accessible (when I have >> a few minutes). >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@xxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:13 AM >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux >> >> So, I have to ask, why Kali Linux, specifically? It's strikes me as a >> rather oddball choice. >> >> >> The post you reference below isn't particularly pertinent to running >> Speakup, and you still haven't told us whether Kali comes with >> Speakup, or whether it's on you to add it into the installation. Once >> again, what's the output of: >> >> locate speakup.ko >> >> Suggestion: You may have much more success with a distribution like >> Arch which supports Speakup out of the box, and which has a talking >> installation >> available: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.archlinux.or >> g_index.php_TalkingArch&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65 >> eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2 >> ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=JUxYZ5Z1WwEmJvd1TAXM8buhPH2soZMlw95_z >> 0Owg2o&e= >> >> If you go this way you'll only have the console unless you explicitly >> install a GUI desktop. >> >> There are other choices, but the above is a good way to get to a >> functioning system with minimul fuss. >> >> Janina >> >> Timothy Breitenfeldt writes: >>> Thank you for the replies. I am still fairly new to using Linux, I am >>> a computer science major and am currently taking a C and unix class >>> right now. I now feel comfortable enough with the basics to switch to >>> using only a shell for access. I have played with Linux for a while, >>> and have always preferred the console over Gnome desktop GUI for >>> accessibility. I have almost no vision, and am currently using orca. >>> >>> Here is the link to the post I referred to on getting speakup running >>> on Kali. >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.o >>> r >>> g_pipermail_speakup_2015-2DMay_058755.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHv >>> l >>> ZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZ >>> p >>> 9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=vmyx_v68qcFfCRezo >>> f >>> UMWegnKnffKCl31dEy6rITmwc&e= >>> >>> I followed all of the instructions here, and saw no change. Speakup >>> never came up talking at the bootup screen. I tried typing speakup >>> into the terminal while in gnome, but it didn't recognize the command. >>> >>> I don't know much about the kernel yet, it is something I will learn >>> next quarter along with other operating system concepts. >>> >>> Thank you for the tip on switching to console mode. I would assume >>> that I can switch back to Gnome using the same shortcut I used to >>> switched to console mode (ctrl+alt+ 1-6)? >>> >>> Can someone take a look at this post and see if you can help? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> TJ Breitenfeldt >>> >>> On 1/27/18, Kirk Reiser <kirk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > To answer the other portion of your query, to move from a gui >>> > console to a text console just type control-alt-f1 or any other of >>> > the function keys from 1 to six. You can learn to kill off gnome >>> > and gdm at a later point if you find you're happy using console mode. >>> > >>> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Okash Khawaja wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi Timothy, >>> >> >>> >> Welcome to speakup :) >>> >> >>> >> There is >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeaku >>> >> p.org_spkguide.txt&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65e >>> >> apI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e >>> >> 9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=2x78Ze1FfDGA2IUei89_yMxCCO9K_R >>> >> nin6X8pL2i0yU&e= >>> >> which should help. >>> >> Basically you need two kernel modules loaded. One is speakup.ko >>> >> and the other depends upon which synthesizer you want to use. So >>> >> for example for Apollo you'll need speakup_apollo.ko. You can also >>> >> use software synth speakup_soft.ko if you don't have a hardware synth. >>> >> All supported synths are mentioned in spkguide linked above. >>> >> >>> >> If it's a hardware synth then the two kernel modules is all you need. >>> >> If it's speakup_soft.ko then some user-space text-to-speech >>> >> software will be required. If you can explain where you're getting >>> >> stuck then we can help more :) >>> >> >>> >> Cheers! >>> >> Okash >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt >>> >> <timothyjb310@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, i recently installed Kali onto an old laptop. I would really >>> >>> like to just run Kali in console mode and completely ignore the >>> >>> GUI .To do this, I know I need speakup. I found a couple >>> >>> refferences in the archives for this mailing list, but I couldn't >>> >>> get it to work with the instructions given. 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