Yes, I think the issue is that gdm is still trying to start a pulseaudio daemon instead of using the system daemon. On Sun, 9 Mar 2014, Robert Spangler wrote: > Are you using Debian Sid? Mine speaks on the login screen with gdm3. > > > On 3/9/2014 1:11 PM, Trevor Astrope wrote: >> Make sure your user is in the pulse-access group. I also have >> Debian-gdm, speech-dispatcher and root in pulse-access. I added these >> users to the audio group too, for good measure. >> >> For orca, I don't get speech until I login. It selects my user by >> default and places focus on the password field, so I just need to enter >> my password and then it will start speaking. >> >> On Sun, 9 Mar 2014, Robert Spangler wrote: >> >>> I am running Jesse/Sid. I tried all of these things with no luck. I >>> even tried Janina's suggestion of disabling Pulseaudio (using her >>> steps) and that just resulted in Orca not speaking. >>> >>> I thought I would try a little experimenting of my own, so I >>> recompiled espeak to use Pulseaudio. I then configured Pulseaudio to >>> run as a system service. When I attempted to restart espeakup, it >>> said it couldn't connect to PulseAudio: access denied. >>> >>> On another note: I noticed, when booting, that speech starts before >>> the Pulseaudio daemon. Could this be causing a problem? >>> >>> I'll keep hammering away at this. I agree with another poster that >>> someone should fix this bug. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Rob >>> >>> On 3/7/2014 10:48 AM, Trevor Astrope wrote: >>>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2014, John G. Heim wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think the classic fix for this probme is to recompile espeak to use >>>>> pulseaudio. Here is a link to a bug report explaining (sort of) what >>>>> to do. >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481651 >>>>> >>>>> I think we had a discussion of this point back in November of 2013 but >>>>> i can't find the thread on google. I am still running debian squeeze >>>>> on my every day work machine and all my other machines now use sonar >>>>> linux. So I haven't tried to get speakup and orca to play nice for >>>>> several months. But I know I got speakup and orca to work in wheezy by >>>>> following the advice on that bug report. The real problem was that the >>>>> version of orca in debian wheezy >>>>> didn't work. >>>> >>>> Below is the post from you and Mike Ray on how to configure and build >>>> espeak to use pulseaudio. I run pulseaudio as a daemon to get espeakup >>>> to start speaking as soon as it is loaded so I get speech at the login >>>> prompt. >>>> >>>> In Debian Jessie/Sid, you will need to edit /etc/default/pulseaudio to >>>> have this line: >>>> >>>> PULSEAUDIO_SYSTEM_START=1 >>>> >>>> And in /etc/pulse/client.conf: >>>> >>>> autospawn = no >>>> >>>> It's been a while since I configured speech for orca, but I think I had >>>> to modify /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf to use a unix socket: >>>> >>>> SocketPath "/var/run/speech-dispatcher/speech-dispatcher.sock" >>>> >>>> And in my .bash_profile, I added: >>>> >>>> export >>>> SPEECHD_ADDRESS="unix_socket:/var/run/speech-dispatcher/speech-dispatcher.sock" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I use hardware speech with speakup on the machine running orca and I >>>> don't run orca on the machine using espeakup, so I can't say that it >>>> will work for both orca and speakup with espeakup. Please follow up if I >>>> missed something. >>>> >>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>>> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 22:17:03 >>>> From: John G. Heim <jheim at math.wisc.edu> >>>> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>> <speakup at linux-speakup.org> >>>> To: mike at raspberryvi.org, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>> <speakup at linux-speakup.org>, Brandon McGinty-Carroll >>>> <bmmcginty at bmcginty.hopto.org> >>>> Subject: Re: speakup & orca in debian 7 >>>> >>>> I got it working on my debian 7 (wheezy) system. Here is what I did: >>>> >>>> apt-get remove espeakup espeak >>>> apt-get install libpulse-dev libsonic-dev >>>> apt-get source espeak >>>> cd espeak-1.6.42/src/ >>>> [edit Makefile as describe below] >>>> make >>>> make install >>>> >>>> cd ../../ >>>> apt-get install espeakup >>>> cd espeakup-0.71/ >>>> make >>>> make install >>>> >>>> modprobe speakup-soft >>>> espeakup >>>> Viola! >>>> >>>> Notes: >>>> 1. I couldn't figure out how to get the debian espeakup package to work >>>> with my custom compiled version of speakup. You can't install espeakup >>>> w/o the espeak package. >>>> 2. The apt-get source command downloads the source for the debian >>>> package into the current working directory. >>>> >>>> On 11/01/2013 07:28 PM, Mike Ray wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I should also say the command to compile is: >>>>> >>>>> make all >>>>> >>>>> not just make >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> On 02/11/2013 00:22, Mike Ray wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is what I did: >>>>>> >>>>>> Edit the Makefile and find the section which reads like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> # 'runtime' uses pulseaudio if it is running, else uses portaudio >>>>>> #AUDIO = runtime >>>>>> AUDIO = portaudio >>>>>> #AUDIO = portaudio0 >>>>>> #AUDIO = portaudio2 >>>>>> #AUDIO = pulseaudio >>>>>> #AUDIO = sada >>>>>> >>>>>> And simply change it to read thusly: >>>>>> >>>>>> # 'runtime' uses pulseaudio if it is running, else uses portaudio >>>>>> #AUDIO = runtime >>>>>> #AUDIO = portaudio >>>>>> #AUDIO = portaudio0 >>>>>> #AUDIO = portaudio2 >>>>>> AUDIO = pulseaudio >>>>>> #AUDIO = sada >>>>>> >>>>>> As you can see I just commented out portaudio and uncommented >>>>>> pulseaudio. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm pretty sure that's all I did. If you get errors about libraries >>>>>> just install what you have missing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am currently having trouble configuring pulseaudio to autospawn >>>>>> properly on the Raspberry Pi. >>>>>> >>>>>> But I hope if I can get it to work switching from portaudio to >>>>>> pulseaudio will solve all the latency issues and crashes we currently >>>>>> have with Arch on the Pi. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have SpeakUp and Emacspeak running with eSpeak on Arch on the Pi >>>>>> but have had to blacklist firmware and newer versions of sound >>>>>> drivers because of a change to the driver which introduced some >>>>>> latency problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other way to make SpeakUp use pulse would be to ditch espeakup >>>>>> and use speechd-up to connect it to speech-dispatcher but I haven't >>>>>> had much success with speechd-up on Arch either on x86 or on the Pi. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/11/2013 00:01, Brandon McGinty-Carroll wrote: >>>>>>> Mike, >>>>>>> If you have the configure commands/steps handy, I'd love them, as >>>>>>> would others, I'm sure. >>>>>>> If not, I'll go looking and post back what I find. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brandon McGinty-Carroll >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 10:22:05PM +0000, Mike Ray wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Espeakup doesn't use either portaudio or pulseaudio. It just calls >>>>>>>> espeak, which in it's default configuration uses portaudio. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is possible to re-compile espeak to use pulseaudio. I have just >>>>>>>> done exactly that in efforts to get tts to work properly on Arch >>>>>>>> Linux on a Raspberry Pi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> espeak using portaudio suffers appalling latency on the Pi and >>>>>>>> sometimes crashes the kernel, but using pulseaudio the latency >>>>>>>> issues are gone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 01/11/2013 20:37, Gregory Nowak wrote: >>>>>>>>> If there is a way to use dmix to augment/replace pulse, I'd love to >>>>>>>>> know about it. The problem here is that espeakup uses alsa directly >>>>>>>>> instead of going through pulse. The only two ways I can think of to >>>>>>>>> fix this would be either to be able to run espeakup as a normal >>>>>>>>> user, >>>>>>>>> which should force it to use pulse by virtue of opening alsa as a >>>>>>>>> regular user from what I understand, or to add pulse support to >>>>>>>>> espeakup. Actually, espeak uses portaudio if I remember right, so >>>>>>>>> maybe it's >>>>>>>>> as simple as portaudio supporting pulse. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Greg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 04:52:48AM +0900, Devon Stewart wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Isn't there a way to use alsa's dmix plugin to either replace, or >>>>>>>>>> at least augment, pulse? Also, this is assuming that Alsa is >>>>>>>>>> being used from the CLI. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Devon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2013/11/02, at 4:41, "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If I kill pulseaudio, do I still get speech with orca? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/01/13 14:23, Trevor Astrope wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using software speech with both speakup and orca? I've >>>>>>>>>>>> had this >>>>>>>>>>>> problem with sound not working on the command line after >>>>>>>>>>>> running orca. >>>>>>>>>>>> In my case, gnome/orca started a pulseaudio process running as >>>>>>>>>>>> my user, >>>>>>>>>>>> even though I have pulseaudio and speechd-up configured to run >>>>>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>>>>> system daemon. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Killing the pulseaudio process running as my user gets sound >>>>>>>>>>>> back. You >>>>>>>>>>>> may need to restart speechd-up service as well, as I sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>> problem with this too, but I usually use hardware speech, so I >>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>> remember the scenario where that is necessary to do as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Nov 2013, John G. Heim wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this is an FAQ but is there a solution to that >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem with >>>>>>>>>>>>> running both speakup & orca in debian 7? Every time I've >>>>>>>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>>>>>>> debian 7 (aka wheezy), I can use speakup fine unless I log in >>>>>>>>>>>>> at the >>>>>>>>>>>>> GUI and run orca. At that point, speakup stops talking and >>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've found short of rebooting gets it working agin. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> understand this >>>>>>>>>>>>> has something to do with pulse audio run in the GUI. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim at math.wisc.edu >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim at math.wisc.edu >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>>>>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Michael A. Ray >>>>>>>> Analyst/Programmer >>>>>>>> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I KEEP six honest serving-men, They taught me all I know. Their >>>>>>>> names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who. >>>>>>>> -- Rudyard Kipling (paraphrased) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interested in accessibility on the Raspberry Pi? >>>>>>>> Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From where you can join our mailing list for visually-impaired Pi >>>>>>>> hackers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >
