Thanks again, Al. You are encouraging me to give this a reasonable try. unfortunately, I'm suspecting I might need to enable pulseaudio on my system for this to work. I'm willing to do that, especially as I understand the application pavucontrol might solve my pulseaudio complaints, but I can't tear down my working system for the half-day this might all take just now. I will report back, though, when I do get around to trying this all. Janina Al Sten-Clanton writes: > Hi, Janina. > > I'm pretty sure I did it from the login screen; I seem to remember > having no speech and counting myself lucky to hear Orca. Sorry I'm > not more certain, but I guess sixteen days is too long ago for me to > remember some things. :-) > > Al > > On 05/10/2013 03:28 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > >Hi, Al: > > > >Glad to hear someone got this working! <grin> Though, I certainly agree > >it's not good to have your password read outloud. > > > >I tried this just now, but got no joy. Do you do this from the Desktop, > >once Orca is loaded and running? Or do you do this from the GDM login > >screen itself? Just for grins, I tried both. > > > >Janina > > > >Albert Sten-Clanton writes: > >>Janina, I'm using Fedora 18, and now have a talking login using these > >>instructions from an e-mail last month on the Orca mailing list: > >> > >>The easiest way to enable screen reader on GDM login screen is to press > >>ctrl+alt+tab once, then press right arrow key once, then press down arrow > >>key four > >>times and then press the enter key. This is with gnome 3.6 on arch linux. > >> > >>The problem with it is that Orca speaks my password, so it's good that I use > >>headphones almost all the time. > >> > >>Hope this helps a bit on *one* thing, anyway. > >> > >>Al > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces at linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Janina > >>Sajka > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:25 PM > >>To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > >>Subject: Re: Voxin was: Re: Switching to Linux > >> > >>I don't use Voxin. I do still use TTSynth with Speakup. The compatibility > >>library you need is available on Fedora 18 as: > >> > >>compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-144.1.i686 > >> > >>PS; With Orca I use speech-dispatcherd and espeak. I have to use a second > >>physical audio device for this. I cannot get these two to share the same > >>alsa device. > >> > >>And, I do need to permanently terminate pulseaudio with extreme prejudice. > >> > >>That's about it. The Fedora GDM still isn't supporting talking login--don't > >>get me started talking about that, though! > >> > >>Firefox, currently at release 20, works wonderfully well. It's useful to use > >>recent Firefox releases because the a11y code in FF is actively being > >>updated these days > >> > >>Janina > >> > >>Kyle writes: > >>>According to Brandon McGinty-Carroll: > >>># As I recall, voxen requires /dev/dsp or somesuch ancient sound API. > >>> > >>>As far as I know, this is correct, but it's a lot worse than that. Not > >>>only does Voxin require an ancient sound API, but it also requires > >>>ancient C libraries in order to function. The source code is either > >>>lost or is otherwise unavailable even to those who would maintain it, > >>>so it can't even be rebuilt against the latest C libraries or even get > >>>any of its numerous bugs fixed. It still crashes on words like c a e s > >>>u r e, which according to Google is a bitcoin client written in > >>>Python, and is also a rather common username on some non-blindness > >>>related forums. It also crashes on a rather common OCR error when > >>>recognizing the word Wednesday. I googled that one as well, and turns > >>>out it is a very common OCR scanning error, especially when scanning > >>>newspapers. I was especially seeing it in scanned newspaper archives > >>>from the late 1800's and early 1900's. There are also reports of > >>>random crashes that cause Voxin and other speech synthesis engines > >>>with the exact same codebase but different names to randomly kill the > >>>screen reader, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, because > >>>the source code is not available or is lost. Worse still is the fact > >>>that many companies are actually making a profit from licensing > >>>something so outdated, broken and unstable, but I guess that's no > >>>different from what Microsoft has been doing for years <smile>. It may > >>>fall on deaf ears for some reason, but my recommendation is to avoid Voxin > >>and all the other voices like it. > >>>Use eSpeak, because it ships with most distros and just works. If you > >>>don't like the way eSpeak sounds, you can still get festival working, > >>>and Festival is capable of running some amazing free voices. There's > >>>also Pico, which is now supported natively in speech-dispatcher. All > >>>these voices sound better and work better than Voxin, which literally > >>>makes my head hurt. > >>>~Kyle > >>>http://kyle.tk/ > >>>-- > >>>"Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" > >>>Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Speakup mailing list > >>>Speakup at linux-speakup.org > >>>http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > >> sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net > >> Email: janina at rednote.net > >> > >>Linux Foundation Fellow > >>Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > >> > >>The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > >>Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > >> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup at linux-speakup.org > >>http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup at linux-speakup.org > >>http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina at rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/
