Hi, Janina. I'm pretty sure I did it from the login screen; I seem to remember having no speech and counting myself lucky to hear Orca. Sorry I'm not more certain, but I guess sixteen days is too long ago for me to remember some things. :-) Al On 05/10/2013 03:28 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > Hi, Al: > > Glad to hear someone got this working! <grin> Though, I certainly agree > it's not good to have your password read outloud. > > I tried this just now, but got no joy. Do you do this from the Desktop, > once Orca is loaded and running? Or do you do this from the GDM login > screen itself? Just for grins, I tried both. > > Janina > > Albert Sten-Clanton writes: >> Janina, I'm using Fedora 18, and now have a talking login using these >> instructions from an e-mail last month on the Orca mailing list: >> >> The easiest way to enable screen reader on GDM login screen is to press >> ctrl+alt+tab once, then press right arrow key once, then press down arrow >> key four >> times and then press the enter key. This is with gnome 3.6 on arch linux. >> >> The problem with it is that Orca speaks my password, so it's good that I use >> headphones almost all the time. >> >> Hope this helps a bit on *one* thing, anyway. >> >> Al >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces at linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Janina >> Sajka >> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:25 PM >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> Subject: Re: Voxin was: Re: Switching to Linux >> >> I don't use Voxin. I do still use TTSynth with Speakup. The compatibility >> library you need is available on Fedora 18 as: >> >> compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-144.1.i686 >> >> PS; With Orca I use speech-dispatcherd and espeak. I have to use a second >> physical audio device for this. I cannot get these two to share the same >> alsa device. >> >> And, I do need to permanently terminate pulseaudio with extreme prejudice. >> >> That's about it. The Fedora GDM still isn't supporting talking login--don't >> get me started talking about that, though! >> >> Firefox, currently at release 20, works wonderfully well. It's useful to use >> recent Firefox releases because the a11y code in FF is actively being >> updated these days >> >> Janina >> >> Kyle writes: >>> According to Brandon McGinty-Carroll: >>> # As I recall, voxen requires /dev/dsp or somesuch ancient sound API. >>> >>> As far as I know, this is correct, but it's a lot worse than that. Not >>> only does Voxin require an ancient sound API, but it also requires >>> ancient C libraries in order to function. The source code is either >>> lost or is otherwise unavailable even to those who would maintain it, >>> so it can't even be rebuilt against the latest C libraries or even get >>> any of its numerous bugs fixed. It still crashes on words like c a e s >>> u r e, which according to Google is a bitcoin client written in >>> Python, and is also a rather common username on some non-blindness >>> related forums. It also crashes on a rather common OCR error when >>> recognizing the word Wednesday. I googled that one as well, and turns >>> out it is a very common OCR scanning error, especially when scanning >>> newspapers. I was especially seeing it in scanned newspaper archives >>> from the late 1800's and early 1900's. There are also reports of >>> random crashes that cause Voxin and other speech synthesis engines >>> with the exact same codebase but different names to randomly kill the >>> screen reader, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, because >>> the source code is not available or is lost. Worse still is the fact >>> that many companies are actually making a profit from licensing >>> something so outdated, broken and unstable, but I guess that's no >>> different from what Microsoft has been doing for years <smile>. It may >>> fall on deaf ears for some reason, but my recommendation is to avoid Voxin >> and all the other voices like it. >>> Use eSpeak, because it ships with most distros and just works. If you >>> don't like the way eSpeak sounds, you can still get festival working, >>> and Festival is capable of running some amazing free voices. There's >>> also Pico, which is now supported natively in speech-dispatcher. All >>> these voices sound better and work better than Voxin, which literally >>> makes my head hurt. >>> ~Kyle >>> http://kyle.tk/ >>> -- >>> "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" >>> Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> -- >> >> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >> sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net >> Email: janina at rednote.net >> >> Linux Foundation Fellow >> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >> >> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
