-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 What changes did you have to make to your daily routine when you made the switch? I already use Firefox and Thunderbird here, but I'm still primarily on XP. I use my Linux server daily, but I purposely haven't put X on it. I have a small 10 GB installation of Debian unstable with X and experimental, but Orca fails to work, or at least I don't have speech when I try to start it. Speakup, of course, works great. I pretty much had the same bad experiences with Orca as other people and I didn't try to do anything fancy. In fact, Vinux crashed almost constantly in Orca but not Speakup. I had to use a Speakup console to kill my Orca session and reboot. I read on the Debian accessibility list to enable experimental to bring in the latest Orca improvements, but it didn't seem to help. If anything, it made things worse as I had a constant stream of broken packages. Now that Wheezy is out, I'll try again one of these days soon-ish. I'm not worried about moving my profiles over from Windows, but I'm more wondering about changes made from an accessibility point of view. In other words, if someone with little to no Linux experience (not me, but someone else) wanted to make the full-time switch to Orca, how well could it be done and what adjustments would they have to make compared to doing things the Windows way? On 5/8/2013 10:57 AM, John G. Heim wrote: > > > > Huh, you're the second person in this thread to say that about orca. > But I just decided to switch to linux full time a few months ago and it > was pretty much a breeze. I had been using that other operating system > too but almost all the end users I support use linux (all good > mathematicians do). So I felt I was cheating by not using linux. But I > have had little to no trouble switching to linux with orca. I use > thunderbird & firefox constantly. It's not quite as good as > Windows/jaws but honestly, I made the transition fairly easily. > > I am really shocked to hear all these complaints about orca. Not to > doubt you. It's just that it doesn't jibe with my experience at all. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRi0/LAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0y+yMP/RxUIuVbYrTv8cGcEo1aNMEj g2qstErfKEtEZKUapAryVr/QfVXdpVt10bPdynFqScKKKQfjMqTmP3CkoCVO02Ao BGhDnReuc4BI/DWuDnqJYayUusvjINnII47w4cjbfbLY+OEwmOajGlnvTLwIB6p5 +VVoCKdzIbTBrDk08lCSso24TToNfmVYUMBUDT8mBnRwGNjN182eDVPWy8PAvIUK QdkTOr1X1RMnn+6JsoHybRr3Owo55ILnL+XDQLEnUe1f5aGlrVXT9sdLPcCwa/uH Ff61apGsMOX20dZ2DiB4U8aiTuU0dV81eTywFt1UZmu8dGLsEGnhvHRCoNEl0JEN XwGH61/DdfpXnlBeusHG7quq2mTjPEy4dMpxaDoaVDVVVOf65TnVBcBBUupxZ44W ZEY/AgbJ5eOFwd8ZZouiVNIQt+BX7gRQ5wVjHwEXlx6d3kNVEsxKIVxhx24+gpXx Ro5Ci3fUoX/TCK3JjznxnkM7ZVPoom5B1s5ZEjEwfbVNBkOp7G6zOAeFO8N7EyRS V8upZXTkL+GWi2vT4bfyYz14yo1Vge22OoFXuPc5nftrjvKcKtzuw5QleYct3MYT UbMbZ0mmKSpVG58P7r6gQljOT0eWCq5z8wLXPzNmCcHAt8Tf9604upZClz7axGnT 0Kq+DEY+LDiEBVmqsdKs =Ghdw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----