-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I still say that Kyle, your prices are unrealistic. I have no idea where the $300 for two year old junk reference comes from as I neither build nor sell computers. I bought my server parts on Amazon last August. Without hard drives, my cost, including the case, mobo, CPU and memory was $585, substantially cheaper than what you're offering. Even if you get two 1 TB drives, we're up to less than $800. I even got the specialized server motherboard and CPU, so I'm sure a plain vanilla desktop is cheaper. Even with my RAID 1 and RAID 5 setup and paying labor, my total cost out the door was $1,100 and I challenge you to find a custom-built server for less than that. I'm sure it can be done, but not custom built from the ground up with two 1 TB and three 3 TB drives. Also, unless I'm terribly behind the times, Dell Small Business usually has machines for sale for around $500 or less for a desktop. I've even seen very nice HP notebooks for less than the $900 you quote below. I should also add that $100 of the $1,100 for extra labor was because it's a server. A plain desktop would probably be about half the price. OK, it just seems like in various threads here and on the Blinux list that running Arch seems to be your answer to everything. I haven't used Arch and I don't see any point since I have a very nice Debian setup here. I really don't know why you would recommend something other than Ubuntu or Debian, at least from an accessibility point of view, but to each his own. I'm the first to admit that there is no one right distro of Linux. On 5/10/2013 6:44 AM, Kyle wrote: > Now just a minute here! I *never* said that everyone runs Arch, nor > did I say that everyone should. Arch is what I use on my own system, > although I can get it working on a system I build if the client wants > to use it, or if it fits a specific need. I generally recommend > openSUSE and Ubuntu for people who are using Linux systems for the > first time. I installed openSUSE on a client's computer and he has had > much fewer complaints about his machine now than he did before the > installation. It went from taking 5 minutes to boot a too new version > of Windows on a too old machine to booting openSUSE in about a minute, > and that is really good, considering the age of his computer and the > amount of ram/CPU power it has. > > As for my prices, I purchase my parts and build the computer to order. > I don't give people 2-year-old junk, call it new and sell it for $300; > I can't, and I flatly refuse to do so. But I have done enough research > to know that I can build a really powerful computer, complete with all > the software bells and whistles, and ship it for around $900, or if > not, definitely under $1000 and this is a computer that Dell won't even > sell. Their closest match is not near as powerful, and it costs $1400. > Now whose prices are unrealistic? ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ > - -- Have a good day, Tony Baechler tony at baechler.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRjfraAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0ykqIP/3TAl1zWHnZraq/S9J4+1xdq oXS+HJFh8xPIuVpV/Caadolm29vdpgObm6nf29D86fEAHtyb46w1ArDj5fWEb4rO MIlk/Yuo0hIpoOG1FaC6Tb+ZJOh+tpV5cWJu7RGqtkvZYm1HKRhn3zZoWdCxjKaI 8gzCJeTKD7g7sDnJoJgItYuUpFTSziZaMUPDIQWtOtFC84lzAvd9iEmATmMClwNw 67Tlyghawx268MagDjdt0pHhByI1Gj1fO0qYYSxtz7cMLR+5V76sp1rbxPEqzJZx v7GOo1c+iyd/mzEiAeYMOrLBaay02K0fwAYCI9J88YEcwcQtAQto0A97gvPGSCvL 9M/f8JG3S+KfTKNAxl4yW/dI7vTIOWVS9TrQS37jo9vdJHxIjSeVZLyDxs3b+/Zw OquRjCcGah2ePSxBlUdr+yEMCkZdeBJ01vWzcSHjisCnsuUW3XzjBalL+MtMYW5O jFdPQBPBS/7PnDqI6KNSZVhUSYb6ZyKhp/TFlVHFIOdAbRwxBZMFzndY6ZK4rP1C yebuXBGwYptzU+Oc+TkZD7ptkjY5Re1p/ORYj4WYS4mTaeUVtQ00dZCkjHxNzhhe VJOC9oh5iKnqn1iwoogq89bHPiPDi+0IB+LPyf2b8G4zNgPw8RmTH1OoackXWGOi D5dm4r6idR//JXQX50lt =DQcZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
