Now just a minute here! I *never* said that everyone runs Arch, nor did I say that everyone should. Arch is what I use on my own system, although I can get it working on a system I build if the client wants to use it, or if it fits a specific need. I generally recommend openSUSE and Ubuntu for people who are using Linux systems for the first time. I installed openSUSE on a client's computer and he has had much fewer complaints about his machine now than he did before the installation. It went from taking 5 minutes to boot a too new version of Windows on a too old machine to booting openSUSE in about a minute, and that is really good, considering the age of his computer and the amount of ram/CPU power it has. As for my prices, I purchase my parts and build the computer to order. I don't give people 2-year-old junk, call it new and sell it for $300; I can't, and I flatly refuse to do so. But I have done enough research to know that I can build a really powerful computer, complete with all the software bells and whistles, and ship it for around $900, or if not, definitely under $1000 and this is a computer that Dell won't even sell. Their closest match is not near as powerful, and it costs $1400. Now whose prices are unrealistic? ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie"