-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Kyle and the Speakup developers here. On the Windows side of things, GW Micro has to ship a custom dictionary with Window-Eyes to prevent the "new" version of Eloquence from crashing. Regardless of the issues with old C libraries, it is not maintained and can't be for the reason Kyle said. IBM used to maintain Viavoice and dropped it in 2000 if that gives a clue. However, to me, even though I also see John's point and agree that it sounds better than ESpeak for daily use, it is not free software. It's non-free both in the sense of cost and source. People here can complain all they want about ESpeak, but there is absolutely nothing preventing a programmer from modifying the source and data as they wish to make it sound better, hint hint. Also as Kyle says, Festival isn't too bad and I like it a little better, but it's very sluggish when reading. There is also MBrola, but it's also non-free. Samuel Thibault did package MBrola for Debian though, so at least you can install it like a regular package. On 5/9/2013 4:05 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >> but I guess that's no different from what Microsoft has been doing >> for years <smile> > yeah... totally. Now if you had any clue what you were talking about > short of the usual windows bashing on a Linux list, we might actually > be able to take you seriously. > > Also I honestly see nothing wrong with voxen/eloquence. Sure it is > outdated and has problems, but I prefer it to the harsh headcold sound > of ESpeak. It's a matter of preference that doesn't exactly set voxen > or espeak above one or the other. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRjO0eAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0yjukP/1EYmflpHcSuGXCthr+o1ygn 9DEHNiGjJPRr+78OPJJ8WuGFPTbe8Bi47kUYPlZb//hBkszlkoqf5B2yKpz/+zay 5NVimE49GwBKVv+s74EW3/rJdKLR3z1Ekxw8Ll4s5rT4ev0zhBUg7rzxFz2uE2ng LVkNEfxxoKBCSMztcCK1woZUuqg8hyK1T8JRUOtsQRNua73VR64RtaOw5HngXlVH WbNbpNQAix5N9P/CqRujE8fBKIYPV5pOIcm1gt0gOSgCwGhFRxkExAbuRJn358Z5 /ufvJ/UihL3y0yoo0DsjDIijKHZpdU+QNQxKsZ2nmaPoGaY8WmDKysAP48r+zpzj j9mgu/aNyh8o3w0ytmlAglwrwO5YyIqunT3Vwz6A2X9V1MsBzWv0UAlokaSNFdHA WFM5t4LaaIKOxtwoL5LfFZdRQ0C79wcZxdyh5V32AckvFPr1AQmwvYaXxhv23Cxk 8MheZMrS09CPca9uPbDV8eUfztqLFXXvVP+sa8g2rn+WdkUk1OI2i74rLo/0B65a YTtL3X3edZcyDYDI9jyphXSpL8TlSS37D8XyYYmtDiSJ+IwMaplP0zteibBh6PVs ZuAEZFJQV/2vRMek/AX459qxapQQY7ueP7e0SF9nIKvOnNLqpP78nar5nlqxO+9p 4VRvG6qKZyFwQSRE9BAP =cg3O -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----