I've been a little out of the loop for a while. Quite a while, as it happens. How does one do a talking Debian stable install these days? Serial synth required, or does speak happen somehow? I haven't actually done a Debian install in something like 5 years, probably. Maybe more. I really need to get my hand back in this stuff. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 9, 2013, at 11:41 AM, ?yvind Lode <oyvind at lode.is> wrote: > Current Debian stable ships with kernel 3.2.41 so no need for backports. > Debian 7.0 codename "wheezy" released May 4th. > > I have already upgraded my firewalls to Debian 7.0 and so far so good. > > Next up is one of my main servers which runs a few services like web, NTP, Samba and is currently powered by Debian 6.0. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces at linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim > Sent: 9. mai 2013 16:01 > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Switching to Linux > > All I did was to do a talking install the current debian stable. Orca > came up talking on the login screen when I rebooted after finishing the > install. > > Some recommendations: > 1. Go with debian stable. > 2. Consider doing a dist upgrade to stable backports. This gets you a > 3.2 kernel. > 3. Use firefox and thunderbird from mozilla on sourceforge. Do not use > the equivalent debian packages. > 4. Gedit is more than adequate as a replacement for notepad. > 5. Consider buying voxin. Voxin is eloquence for linux. You get the same > voice as jaws. It costs $6 from the oralux project. (Google it.) Voxin > may not be as stable as espeak but I like the voice much more. > > > > > > On 05/09/13 02:27, Tony Baechler wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> What changes did you have to make to your daily routine when you made the >> switch? I already use Firefox and Thunderbird here, but I'm still >> primarily on XP. I use my Linux server daily, but I purposely haven't put >> X on it. I have a small 10 GB installation of Debian unstable with X and >> experimental, but Orca fails to work, or at least I don't have speech when >> I try to start it. Speakup, of course, works great. I pretty much had >> the same bad experiences with Orca as other people and I didn't try to do >> anything fancy. In fact, Vinux crashed almost constantly in Orca but not >> Speakup. I had to use a Speakup console to kill my Orca session and >> reboot. I read on the Debian accessibility list to enable experimental to >> bring in the latest Orca improvements, but it didn't seem to help. If >> anything, it made things worse as I had a constant stream of broken >> packages. Now that Wheezy is out, I'll try again one of these days >> soon-ish. I'm not worried about moving my profiles over from Windows, but >> I'm more wondering about changes made from an accessibility point of view. >> In other words, if someone with little to no Linux experience (not me, >> but someone else) wanted to make the full-time switch to Orca, how well >> could it be done and what adjustments would they have to make compared to >> doing things the Windows way? >> >> On 5/8/2013 10:57 AM, John G. Heim wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Huh, you're the second person in this thread to say that about orca. >>> But I just decided to switch to linux full time a few months ago and it >>> was pretty much a breeze. I had been using that other operating system >>> too but almost all the end users I support use linux (all good >>> mathematicians do). So I felt I was cheating by not using linux. But I >>> have had little to no trouble switching to linux with orca. I use >>> thunderbird & firefox constantly. It's not quite as good as >>> Windows/jaws but honestly, I made the transition fairly easily. >>> >>> I am really shocked to hear all these complaints about orca. Not to >>> doubt you. 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